"I've Fallen Down A Rabbit Hole And I Can't Get Up! w/ Jeremy Corbell" — Your Mom's House Ep. 862 (2026)

Source: Your Mom's House podcast (YMH Studios), Ep. 862, hosted by Christina P (Tom Segura absent); guest Jeremy Corbell. Published: 2026-06-03. Duration: 2:04:54. URL: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tBHSjiLJkXE Extraction: youtube_transcript.py (auto-generated captions; speaker labels approximate, [ __ ] = censored profanity), captured 2026-06-03. Verbatim auto-transcript. Analysis: ../../sources/corbell-career-and-claims.

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[00:00:01.760] Well, welcome. Welcome to your mom's
[00:00:04.880] house.
[00:00:09.825] [music]
[00:00:11.440] Okay. Hi. Welcome to your mom's house.
[00:00:13.360] It's me, Christina P. Tom is out of town
[00:00:16.320] and I have taken over and officially
[00:00:18.720] made this show weird as [ __ ]
[00:00:22.560] But first, I want to plug Brea June 5th
[00:00:25.439] and 6. I'm going to be there doing shows
[00:00:28.320] uh by the time this airs. Yeah, this
[00:00:30.080] will be there. Okay, you guys, I'm so
[00:00:32.239] [ __ ] stoked to have this person on.
[00:00:33.920] We have so many mutual friends and I've
[00:00:36.000] been dying to meet him. Please welcome
[00:00:37.520] to your mom's house, Jeremy Corbel.
[00:00:40.559] >> What up, Christina? [applause]
[00:00:42.000] >> Oh my god,
[00:00:43.120] >> I wanted to meet you, too. You know, we
[00:00:44.879] do have mutual friends, but do not judge
[00:00:46.879] each other by the friends we have.
[00:00:48.470] [laughter] That could go sideways.
[00:00:50.399] >> Your documentary, Sleeping Dog, is out
[00:00:53.600] now. Yes.
[00:00:54.640] >> And listen, I've been following you for
[00:00:57.760] years. I've seen you.
[00:00:59.440] >> Okay. Okay. [laughter]
[00:01:00.879] But I I got into you when David Grush
[00:01:03.280] testified. That was the first time I was
[00:01:05.439] like, "Wait, what? This is in Congress.
[00:01:08.080] This guy is talking about what?" And
[00:01:11.119] then I went down the rabbit hole
[00:01:12.720] straight to you. So tell us about this
[00:01:15.680] documentary and why it's so important.
[00:01:19.680] >> John Leer said in the documentary,
[00:01:22.000] "You've fallen down the rabbit hole
[00:01:23.840] [laughter]
[00:01:24.400] and there's no hope." And that's all
[00:01:26.400] that's ringing in my head right now when
[00:01:27.840] you said you fell down the rabbit hole.
[00:01:29.600] There's no hope. There there's [ __ ]
[00:01:31.200] hope. Um I don't remember the question
[00:01:33.680] you asked me, but I [laughter] I want to
[00:01:35.439] say something before we start.
[00:01:36.560] >> Yeah.
[00:01:37.040] >> Never in my life has somebody given me a
[00:01:40.960] case of tall boy.
[00:01:42.880] >> Yeah.
[00:01:43.200] >> Coors banquetss. Christina, that's what
[00:01:45.759] we do here.
[00:01:46.560] >> The best practice right now.
[00:01:48.640] >> Get Let's get ripped, dude. I'm going to
[00:01:50.000] smoke sigs. You're going to
[00:01:51.200] >> [ __ ]
[00:01:51.600] >> We're going to drink your cors. We're
[00:01:52.799] going to talk about aliens.
[00:01:53.920] >> Turn that.
[00:01:54.640] >> Okay. Let me ask you some questions then
[00:01:56.079] before we get into the documentary. You
[00:01:57.520] guys have to watch this
[00:01:58.799] >> the documentary.
[00:01:59.680] >> You've got to watch Sleeping Dog if
[00:02:01.439] you're remotely interested
[00:02:03.360] >> in this u UAP, which I [ __ ] hate
[00:02:06.000] UFOs, whatever is going on in the sky.
[00:02:08.560] As you guys know, last time I talked
[00:02:10.160] about how I see orbs and I think this
[00:02:13.200] stuff is very [ __ ] real. But first
[00:02:15.599] things first, is David Grush still
[00:02:17.520] alive?
[00:02:19.040] >> Yes. Yes. I I texted with him this
[00:02:21.920] morning. [laughter]
[00:02:23.520] Oh, that's so sad.
[00:02:24.640] >> I love him so much.
[00:02:25.920] >> No, he should be protected. He is an
[00:02:28.239] American hero. He will go down in the
[00:02:29.840] history books as a guy that told the
[00:02:32.000] truth, broke from the fold. Yeah.
[00:02:34.000] >> And and did something what he said is
[00:02:36.480] true
[00:02:37.280] >> and now everybody has to catch up.
[00:02:39.519] >> [ __ ] David Grush, man.
[00:02:41.120] >> David Grush is a real American hero. And
[00:02:43.120] for those of you who are a little
[00:02:44.720] skeptical, David Grush, wasn't he a
[00:02:47.040] pilot? He worked in the government.
[00:02:50.480] These are these are pilots coming
[00:02:52.319] forward. Go ahead.
[00:02:53.920] >> He he he
[00:02:56.000] participated in a remote piloting thing
[00:02:58.080] of some really special craft. But no, he
[00:03:00.720] is a a full-blown
[00:03:03.440] um he did serve in the Air Force. He did
[00:03:06.319] go to Iraq. Um but his main job is
[00:03:09.360] intelligence. It's always been
[00:03:10.480] intelligence. He is a very
[00:03:12.720] interestingminded individual in that
[00:03:15.280] he's I don't know the right word but uh
[00:03:18.400] his mind can recall it's like a form of
[00:03:21.360] autism you know [clears throat] but it's
[00:03:22.720] there's different forms and I looked up
[00:03:24.720] his form and it can be very powerful
[00:03:27.280] >> so basically he is an intelligence
[00:03:29.599] officer he has a long career worked for
[00:03:33.200] space force I mean this guy is legit our
[00:03:36.560] country trusted him with some of our
[00:03:39.200] greatest secrets and then asked him his
[00:03:41.760] specific job, how he fell down the
[00:03:43.519] rabbit hole like you,
[00:03:45.680] other than like in Star Trek when he was
[00:03:47.599] a kid, you know, cuz that's a nerdy
[00:03:49.120] thing to do. What he did, he was given
[00:03:52.239] the task
[00:03:54.239] to go look at the black budgets, the
[00:03:56.799] black budget programs or or more that
[00:03:58.640] the SAPS, which are like
[00:04:00.319] >> I hate these acronyms, ATIP, arrow,
[00:04:02.959] saps.
[00:04:03.439] >> I know. So, this is super easy.
[00:04:06.799] I was going to make a joke about the
[00:04:08.159] name of your show and that I couldn't
[00:04:09.439] come up with a good acronym. Um,
[00:04:11.920] >> so he was tasked with looking into who's
[00:04:15.439] hiding and who has knowledge of nonhuman
[00:04:18.720] intelligence, UAP or UFO craft parts,
[00:04:22.479] biologics, bodies. That was literally
[00:04:25.360] his official job. And he is so fidious
[00:04:32.560] and he's so intelligent as m he went
[00:04:35.840] after it. He did over 40 interviews that
[00:04:40.080] were then put over into ICIG which is
[00:04:43.680] just intelligence community inspector
[00:04:46.240] general. It was like a report saying,
[00:04:48.479] "Holy [ __ ] Houston, we have a problem.
[00:04:52.479] They've been hiding the funds and this
[00:04:55.040] these property assets. It is and it's
[00:04:58.000] it's bigger than that. So that was
[00:05:00.400] that's David Gres. That was his job and
[00:05:03.120] he did his job and he did it so well
[00:05:06.400] that they that he became a threat.
[00:05:09.360] >> He became a threat.
[00:05:10.160] >> Who who tasked David Crush with that
[00:05:12.880] initial job?
[00:05:13.919] >> His name is Jay Stratton. And Jay
[00:05:16.639] Stratton um I think he's like there's a
[00:05:19.120] book coming out about him. You seen him
[00:05:20.960] in like oh first time you ever saw him
[00:05:24.240] was on my show Weaponized. We George and
[00:05:26.960] I do a lot of interviews that we don't
[00:05:28.400] publish, but early on we used a clip. It
[00:05:31.919] was at in Rocket City. We went to go
[00:05:34.000] meet with him and we got him talking
[00:05:37.680] about it on camera. He ran what's called
[00:05:40.560] the UAP D um TF, which is the UAP, which
[00:05:45.280] just means unidentified anomalous
[00:05:47.120] phenomenon, which is actually a better
[00:05:48.240] name than UFO. Just UFO is way [ __ ]
[00:05:49.919] cooler. Um, but I'll tell you why it's a
[00:05:51.919] better name. And then TF is task force.
[00:05:54.320] So Jay Stratton ran the UAPF, the UAP
[00:05:58.479] task force, and he tasked David Grush,
[00:06:01.520] this is how I understand it, I believe
[00:06:02.720] it to be accurate, with digging in,
[00:06:05.440] finding out where the craft were, where
[00:06:07.199] the assets were, who's hiding it, where
[00:06:09.199] the money goes, who we can interview,
[00:06:10.639] who has direct exposure, who worked on
[00:06:12.160] the craft. [ __ ] David Gush was like,
[00:06:14.720] and he went for it.
[00:06:15.840] >> So rad.
[00:06:16.639] >> Then he realized what happened.
[00:06:18.000] [ __ ] leaned over to George Knap
[00:06:19.600] at a [laughter] bar and said, "I'm
[00:06:21.520] coming forward and I don't know how this
[00:06:24.000] is done. It's legal.
[00:06:25.680] >> Stop."
[00:06:26.000] >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I have it on film.
[00:06:28.000] >> Stop.
[00:06:28.400] >> I was just filming George at a bar in
[00:06:30.160] Rocket City cuz I was bored and in lean
[00:06:32.720] this guy and I'm protective of George
[00:06:34.720] >> and and then I I realized, oh, that's
[00:06:36.880] the guy I'm supposed to meet. That's D.
[00:06:39.680] I never physically met him before. And I
[00:06:41.840] I said, let's sus this [ __ ] out
[00:06:44.139] [laughter] because it took about a took
[00:06:45.600] about a year.
[00:06:46.560] >> Oh, for real? Oh, dude. George and I
[00:06:48.319] don't [ __ ] around.
[00:06:49.680] >> Yeah, just so few people know that
[00:06:51.440] Jeremy Corbell is a journalist. You
[00:06:53.600] know, [ __ ] I was so excited to see you.
[00:06:55.360] I didn't even do our intro. I'm sorry,
[00:06:56.960] you guys. Hold on. Before we go any
[00:06:58.880] further, you got to watch this clip. I
[00:07:01.039] think this will really set us up for
[00:07:02.560] something nice. A nice discussion.
[00:07:17.280] Who's ready to wrestle?
[00:07:18.720] >> I am. [laughter]
[00:07:20.000] >> I am. I'm I'm ready to wrestle.
[00:07:22.479] >> Don't bring anyone LOVING TO THIS.
[00:07:24.479] >> NO. [ __ ] STAND.
[00:07:26.240] >> WELL, WELCOME. Welcome to Tom's house
[00:07:30.800] with Tomina.
[00:07:39.840] >> It's super cool
[00:07:43.120] >> grandfather.
[00:07:44.000] >> [ __ ]
[00:07:46.400] >> Now, now
[00:07:48.319] this theme song's so long.
[00:07:53.360] So long. You [music] have like dreams
[00:07:54.800] where this just keeps playing before you
[00:07:56.479] have to get up for a show.
[00:08:00.160] >> These kids made [music] me a new theme
[00:08:01.680] song, by the way. They just gave it to
[00:08:03.120] me yesterday. I'll play it in the
[00:08:04.720] microphone at the end for you. It's
[00:08:06.160] hilarious.
[00:08:07.919] >> All right, here we go. We're ready to
[00:08:10.560] wrestle. That's That's our friend there.
[00:08:13.440] He runs a 24-hour gym.
[00:08:15.440] >> That's your buddy?
[00:08:16.479] >> No, he's just [laughter]
[00:08:18.080] obsessed.
[00:08:18.720] >> He's ready to wrestle though.
[00:08:19.919] >> He's ready to wrestle aliens. He's going
[00:08:21.520] to get abducted by grace
[00:08:23.280] >> and anally probe. Okay. So, so back. Can
[00:08:26.000] you bring up a picture of David Grush?
[00:08:27.759] If you guys have like 3 hours to spend,
[00:08:31.120] >> that's what we're about to do.
[00:08:32.240] >> Go back and watch this congressional
[00:08:35.919] hearing.
[00:08:36.560] >> Look how they try to put these funny
[00:08:38.320] facial expressions on him. That's part
[00:08:40.640] of this process of diminishing. You
[00:08:42.959] know, he is. Look at that one with the
[00:08:45.040] white shirt where he's looking straight.
[00:08:46.640] That's nice. Yeah,
[00:08:47.839] >> they've got some Time magazine did one
[00:08:50.000] of him and he had they tried to make him
[00:08:52.320] have a funny expression. That one on the
[00:08:53.839] far left is cool.
[00:08:55.120] >> Yeah. And then also, just so you know,
[00:08:56.880] on either side of David Grush are like
[00:08:59.839] decorated [laughter]
[00:09:02.000] military people, right? These are not
[00:09:04.320] >> these are my friends. I got them all.
[00:09:06.240] >> Okay, so
[00:09:06.800] >> I got the Commander David Fraver on
[00:09:08.480] Grush's left, if I recall.
[00:09:10.720] >> Um on his right is Ryan Graves. Both
[00:09:13.920] pilots. Uh, specifically the guy on the
[00:09:17.760] far the guy on David's left
[00:09:20.959] >> is Commander David Fraver. He is Top
[00:09:24.320] Gun. He is He was the head of the black.
[00:09:26.640] You know all this?
[00:09:27.440] >> Well, yeah. I'm a [ __ ] There we go.
[00:09:29.040] >> Dork. I love this stuff. No, but for the
[00:09:31.040] audience, say it. Say it out loud cuz
[00:09:32.640] people don't know these people.
[00:09:33.680] >> Uh, Commander David Fraver.
[00:09:35.200] >> Yes.
[00:09:35.600] >> Chased a UFO for the United States
[00:09:37.920] military. He was Top Gun [ __ ]
[00:09:41.279] head of the Black Aces VFA 41. Uh, so I
[00:09:46.640] actually got to him many, many, many
[00:09:48.560] years before the world ever knew about
[00:09:50.880] him. And I was coached like, "You got to
[00:09:53.279] talk pilot." I'm like, "Okay, okay. I s
[00:09:55.040] psych myself up. I hide in my closet so
[00:09:57.120] it sounds good." And I go, "Hey, my name
[00:09:59.040] is German Corbell and um, just don't
[00:10:00.800] hang up. I I I know about what happened
[00:10:04.640] in 2004 and I'm a journalist, but I'm
[00:10:06.560] not going to say anything. I just want
[00:10:08.480] to ask you some questions. How the [ __ ]
[00:10:10.720] you get my number? Like it started like
[00:10:12.320] that. And I told him it was your buddy
[00:10:15.200] with the loose lips who gave me your
[00:10:16.880] number. [laughter] So I knew everything
[00:10:18.640] about the case. And everybody thinks
[00:10:20.880] that case was broke in the New York
[00:10:22.399] Times.
[00:10:23.360] >> Yeah, that's right. The article came out
[00:10:24.880] during the pandemic. Right.
[00:10:26.560] >> Right. 2017 the world changed, you know,
[00:10:29.519] great article opened up this whole thing
[00:10:32.320] about UAP.
[00:10:34.240] However, some of it was inaccurate. um
[00:10:37.519] like completely inaccurate and we can
[00:10:39.920] get into that but the premise is
[00:10:42.240] actually perfect because it's true but
[00:10:45.600] David and I Commander Fraver he says
[00:10:48.560] don't ever call him that I always call
[00:10:49.680] him that we're really good friends now
[00:10:51.279] right the thing is why we're really good
[00:10:54.480] friends part of the premise is I never
[00:10:57.040] burned him I told him this story is huge
[00:11:00.399] the world's going to hear about it one
[00:11:01.920] day they won't hear about it from me but
[00:11:03.920] if I were you know I would Just know
[00:11:07.120] that the world's going to hear about
[00:11:08.399] this and your life is going to change.
[00:11:09.920] You're going to be known from your
[00:11:10.959] entire fight career. He 9/11, he flew
[00:11:13.440] over LA to protect it. He did crazy [ __ ]
[00:11:16.720] on missions.
[00:11:18.640] But what you're going to be known for is
[00:11:20.240] that 5 minutes that you chased a UFO.
[00:11:23.279] And he was didn't believe me. I said,
[00:11:24.640] "Look, I'm not going to leak it." So why
[00:11:26.320] we're such good friends is cuz well, we
[00:11:28.640] both like um having a beer. No, but why
[00:11:31.040] we're good friends is cuz I didn't leak
[00:11:32.399] his story. Part of telling secrets is
[00:11:35.040] keeping him. So when his name went
[00:11:37.279] public, I literally called him. I said,
[00:11:39.200] "It happened." He goes, "What happened?"
[00:11:41.040] And I go, "Your name just got put out
[00:11:42.880] there. Not by me. I told you it would
[00:11:44.640] happen."
[00:11:45.120] >> Yeah.
[00:11:45.519] >> And he was like so angry because it's
[00:11:49.440] not that he was hiding from it. It's
[00:11:51.600] just that
[00:11:53.519] >> nobody wants that public attention. You
[00:11:55.760] don't know what it's going to mean. So
[00:11:57.360] for your audience, Commander David
[00:11:58.959] Fraver, he saw what's called the tic
[00:12:01.200] tac.
[00:12:01.680] >> The tic tac. Bring up the tic tac video.
[00:12:03.839] It's on Wikipedia, by the way, which is
[00:12:06.720] [ __ ] crazy. So, during the pandemic,
[00:12:09.519] there were like what, three or four
[00:12:11.440] videos leaked from the Pentagon that
[00:12:15.279] showed like the Tic Tac, the Go Fast, I
[00:12:17.920] forget what's the other one. The gimbal.
[00:12:20.240] >> And I remember it was so quietly just
[00:12:22.560] put there in the middle of a pandemic
[00:12:25.040] and nobody gave a [ __ ] People were
[00:12:27.040] like, "Who gives a [ __ ] Aliens can't
[00:12:28.639] pay my bills. We're in the middle of a
[00:12:30.399] pandemic." And I'm like, "Yeah, I get
[00:12:32.320] that." But uh let's take a look. Your
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[00:15:22.560] >> Yeah. So, that wasn't that wasn't
[00:15:24.079] leaked. It was provoked. So, if you if
[00:15:27.839] you really look back, so I was telling
[00:15:30.079] you who broke this story, let me tell
[00:15:32.240] you something. If you go back and you
[00:15:34.800] listen to George and me prior to that,
[00:15:37.279] the two times before on Coast to Coast
[00:15:39.120] AM,
[00:15:40.000] >> we broke the Tic Tac Yop. So without I I
[00:15:43.279] did it in a way that Fraver and it was
[00:15:45.600] so we're we're fishing for more people
[00:15:48.000] which I got from that incident. And I
[00:15:50.320] asked Fraver if that's okay cuz no one
[00:15:52.160] listens late night show. But if you go
[00:15:54.240] back and listen, we broke it and just so
[00:15:56.800] happened somehow that video got sent to
[00:16:01.360] me hours before
[00:16:04.959] I went on and cuz it was like
[00:16:08.000] mythological um for a while. I was like,
[00:16:10.320] there's this video being passed around.
[00:16:12.399] I don't know who sent it to me, but it
[00:16:14.399] was somebody in the know that I was
[00:16:15.440] going to go on a show. So, I broke that
[00:16:16.959] story with George Knap. And I'll say it
[00:16:18.720] twice before the New York Times article.
[00:16:20.639] And I'm not bragging, I'm just
[00:16:21.759] confessing. And here's why.
[00:16:23.600] People need to really understand
[00:16:26.399] people didn't want this out. Everything
[00:16:28.639] was provoked. It was every inch and
[00:16:31.120] millimeter we've made from the
[00:16:32.320] government. Every video that George and
[00:16:33.920] I have ever put out that's military
[00:16:35.279] filmed, it's a risk to do it
[00:16:37.440] >> to to sources and it was provoked. This
[00:16:39.920] is not the government giving you [ __ ]
[00:16:41.519] >> So, this is what's interesting, Jeremy
[00:16:43.279] Corbel, because I've been asking this
[00:16:45.040] question since I've watched David Grush
[00:16:47.120] on this congressional hearing with you
[00:16:48.560] in the background, by the way. Is that
[00:16:51.120] why now? Why disclosure now? I was like,
[00:16:54.320] why would the government, what interest
[00:16:57.040] do they have in letting the people know
[00:16:59.199] now? Yeah, all this stuff is real.
[00:17:00.880] Aliens are real. Why? Why now? But
[00:17:03.199] you're telling me it was provoked. So,
[00:17:05.280] it sounds like they're either getting
[00:17:06.720] ahead of a narrative,
[00:17:08.880] >> shaping it backwards in a CIA document
[00:17:12.319] that I saw shape the emerging UAP
[00:17:15.760] narrative.
[00:17:16.480] >> I thought this so interesting. So when
[00:17:18.480] they got on their heels after, you know,
[00:17:20.720] the 2004 tic tac incident came out and
[00:17:22.880] the gimbal video came out, the go fast
[00:17:25.039] tic tac,
[00:17:26.160] >> they started a campaign of cyber warfare
[00:17:28.480] to
[00:17:30.000] uh discriminate against the the people
[00:17:31.919] that have served the country. There was
[00:17:33.919] coordinated efforts to diminish their
[00:17:36.880] presence like they did with David Grush
[00:17:38.720] with his PTSD. First question I asked.
[00:17:40.480] >> Oh, I remember that. Like like he is
[00:17:42.559] David. Come on. They're trying to
[00:17:44.480] discredit him by saying he has like
[00:17:45.919] mental illness or something. Like the
[00:17:47.360] guy is such a straight arrow. Come on.
[00:17:49.039] >> Straight arrow. He's a [ __ ] family
[00:17:50.799] guy. He's normal.
[00:17:51.600] >> He had a PTSD. And that's what they went
[00:17:54.000] after. But the guy that that that put
[00:17:55.760] that out, he admitted the intelligence
[00:17:58.640] agencies leaked it to him. Why are
[00:18:01.280] intelligence agencies leaking a medical
[00:18:03.919] issue about a PTSD about why? Because
[00:18:06.640] you know why. So why do they want it
[00:18:08.000] out? Now when I answer your question
[00:18:09.120] directly, so I'm not accused of not. Um,
[00:18:15.440] there may be
[00:18:18.720] great people on the inside that feel
[00:18:23.440] that it's far past time to admit the
[00:18:27.120] fundamental aspects of what they know.
[00:18:29.919] They don't know everything about the UAP
[00:18:33.679] presence and contact with human beings
[00:18:36.480] that has been going on since beginning
[00:18:38.160] of recorded human history at least.
[00:18:42.080] I know that to be true that there are
[00:18:44.640] good people in government that think the
[00:18:46.559] world should know
[00:18:47.600] >> and I I know 50% of people though in
[00:18:49.919] government that will fight vehemently if
[00:18:52.720] that's the right word
[00:18:54.400] >> to never let you know.
[00:18:55.840] >> Okay. So So let's talk about this just
[00:18:57.600] from a philosophical human human thing.
[00:19:01.760] What is the big whoop if we find out
[00:19:04.080] that aliens are real?
[00:19:06.480] >> What do you Okay. Okay. So I usually
[00:19:09.200] interview people when I'm being
[00:19:11.200] interviewed. Let me just ask you real
[00:19:12.559] quick. What do you think the big whoop
[00:19:14.880] would be?
[00:19:15.280] >> I'll tell you if you really want to
[00:19:16.559] know.
[00:19:16.799] >> I do. I do. [laughter] I want to know
[00:19:17.840] what
[00:19:18.080] >> how much time you got, Jeremy.
[00:19:19.679] >> I'm here all day. Let's talk.
[00:19:21.039] >> Let's get [ __ ] crazy. I'll tell you
[00:19:23.120] why. Because I think uh you know, David
[00:19:26.000] Grush put it out there. I am not the
[00:19:27.760] first to say this that we have
[00:19:30.498] [clears throat] we have materials that
[00:19:32.320] have been whatever taken from crash
[00:19:35.840] sites. We have non-human biologics. Uh
[00:19:38.640] Bob Lazar has said as much that he
[00:19:41.039] worked at Area 51 back in the 80s. He
[00:19:43.840] mentioned element 115 which surprise
[00:19:46.160] surprise is now actually on the periodic
[00:19:48.720] table of elements. I think
[00:19:50.320] >> he always knew that was going to happen.
[00:19:51.280] By the way, go on.
[00:19:52.320] >> Well, I think that we've reverse
[00:19:53.600] engineered some stuff and we want to
[00:19:55.360] keep it a secret and and maybe that's
[00:19:57.200] the impetus to like
[00:19:59.039] >> these are war these are going to be used
[00:20:00.559] as war weapons or are being used as war
[00:20:02.640] weapons and that threatens security
[00:20:05.039] somehow. Is that is that somewhat
[00:20:07.200] >> Yeah, that is like a really great way to
[00:20:09.200] explain it in the basics. I I'm going to
[00:20:10.960] add to it a little bit. [laughter]
[00:20:12.480] Right, here we go. You like that, [ __ ]
[00:20:16.480] Let's [ __ ] light this fuse for years.
[00:20:19.280] >> Let's light this fuse.
[00:20:21.520] >> Let's get [ __ ] weird, man. Okay.
[00:20:23.600] >> Oh, it's also weird that you don't even
[00:20:25.280] have to try to make it weird.
[00:20:26.559] >> Wait, I have even further. Okay, but go
[00:20:28.320] ahead.
[00:20:28.559] >> Oh, no. Up to you.
[00:20:30.640] >> You're the boss and also your mom's
[00:20:32.320] house.
[00:20:32.640] >> Sure, [ __ ] Okay, so I don't need to
[00:20:34.159] call you [ __ ] Oh, call you [ __ ] back.
[00:20:35.520] We're all good, [ __ ] Let's go.
[00:20:37.039] >> And in tandem to this reverse
[00:20:38.960] engineering stuff
[00:20:41.600] are the existence of orbs are the
[00:20:44.240] existence of quote good beings or
[00:20:46.559] extraterrestrial beings that do want to
[00:20:48.480] push humanity and help us along. There's
[00:20:50.640] that element, too.
[00:20:51.600] >> So, you just went from a really like
[00:20:54.080] concrete thing to what my mom would say.
[00:20:56.320] She'd be all, "Hey, Christina." You'd be
[00:20:58.159] like, "What?" And she'd be like, "Your
[00:20:59.360] dick's in the peanut butter." And you'd
[00:21:01.280] be like, "What do you mean?" She goes,
[00:21:02.320] "You're [ __ ] nuts." So, so she's
[00:21:04.164] [laughter] like, "So, you went you went
[00:21:05.520] from but but but there is something to
[00:21:07.360] it." But you went from there,
[00:21:08.159] >> but then you have the Bledsoe. So, let's
[00:21:09.600] hold on. Let's talk to the Bledsoe
[00:21:11.200] family who's been documenting these orbs
[00:21:13.360] for 20 years and they claim to have
[00:21:16.159] spiritual experience of them. There's a
[00:21:17.840] lot of people that see this [ __ ] and
[00:21:19.229] [clears throat] have documented it. So,
[00:21:20.720] you've got that and then you've got the
[00:21:22.320] wararmongering
[00:21:23.440] >> and then you also get, you know, people
[00:21:25.280] that um they see something for real and
[00:21:28.640] then every [ __ ] plane is an orb or a
[00:21:31.039] UFO and you know, no, you have to
[00:21:33.360] protect your own mind against that
[00:21:35.120] because it's so exciting to know that
[00:21:37.360] we're living in a reality that is far
[00:21:39.360] deeper and that there something else
[00:21:41.360] penetrates into our environment that we
[00:21:43.679] are unable to experience on a on an
[00:21:45.840] average day. So it becomes exciting and
[00:21:49.039] when that becomes you have to you have
[00:21:50.320] to guard yourself.
[00:21:51.440] >> Yes.
[00:21:51.840] >> Like
[00:21:52.240] >> you'll get psychosis. That's the people
[00:21:54.080] are like I see the number 444. I see
[00:21:56.240] angels. I'm like
[00:21:56.960] >> you have to keep your mind open but
[00:21:58.240] don't let the marbles spill out because
[00:21:59.520] we only got limited marbles.
[00:22:00.799] >> Of course babes. Okay. So tell me the
[00:22:02.720] other part. What am I missing?
[00:22:04.000] >> Okay, so okay, let's reverse the tape.
[00:22:06.640] >> Reverse engineering Bob Lazar
[00:22:09.520] >> about why it's secret. That was the
[00:22:11.200] thing. Why is the government us keeping
[00:22:13.840] it? Why have they kept it secret was
[00:22:15.440] kind of your question.
[00:22:16.480] >> What what's the big whoop?
[00:22:17.760] >> I'll I'll tell you exactly from an
[00:22:19.440] informed point of view like this is not
[00:22:21.200] speculation. Um I have met with uh under
[00:22:25.679] Department of Justice. I have met with
[00:22:28.400] weapons of mass destruction specialists
[00:22:30.960] that focus on the UAP issue. Now, why
[00:22:34.320] would UFOs be classified higher than
[00:22:38.159] weapons of mass destruction? It makes no
[00:22:41.360] sense. So your first thought or my first
[00:22:43.280] thought was and I talked with Commander
[00:22:44.799] Fraver about this. Well, if you got a
[00:22:46.559] tic-tac technology, whoever gets that
[00:22:48.559] technology first, they win because you
[00:22:49.919] could literally drop off a nuke and drop
[00:22:52.559] down from 80,000 ft to ground level less
[00:22:55.280] than a second and go back up, drop a
[00:22:57.120] nuke, nobody knows who did it.
[00:22:59.039] >> That's different than launching and then
[00:23:00.720] they're going. So that's the first
[00:23:02.720] thought I had is why keep this secret is
[00:23:05.679] because we want strategic advantage for
[00:23:08.720] strategic surprise as a technologically
[00:23:11.120] advanced nation. We want to be do Yeah.
[00:23:13.200] Go America.
[00:23:13.919] >> And that's reverse engineered stuff.
[00:23:15.679] >> No. So
[00:23:18.080] that is the premise of the secrecy. It's
[00:23:21.760] a cold war mentality. Mhm.
[00:23:23.840] >> Once we realized, oh [ __ ] these
[00:23:27.280] technologies,
[00:23:28.880] they could do [ __ ] for us and they could
[00:23:31.120] do [ __ ] for other countries and Russia
[00:23:32.559] and China also have craft
[00:23:34.559] >> that have been gifted or landed or
[00:23:36.000] whatever you want to say
[00:23:37.200] >> or or crashed. So what America did is
[00:23:40.799] use this the architecture of the nuclear
[00:23:43.520] program to hide the reverse engineering
[00:23:48.799] >> and compartmentalize the programs to and
[00:23:51.760] I quote
[00:23:53.600] exploit for derivative technologies
[00:23:56.799] >> because you can't build the UFO you
[00:23:58.960] don't have zero gravity environment
[00:24:00.240] where you can make the meta materials.
[00:24:02.000] Right.
[00:24:02.320] >> Right. But what you can do is if you
[00:24:04.480] like figure out a tiny little part of it
[00:24:07.120] that could create a huge weaponization
[00:24:09.840] capability. So you understand it's not
[00:24:12.880] so much like religion would crumble.
[00:24:14.720] It's not so much like they've kept this
[00:24:17.279] secret so long they're keeping the
[00:24:19.760] secret that they kept the secret. That
[00:24:21.600] that's what's happening.
[00:24:22.480] >> It's an infinite regret. I understand
[00:24:23.919] what you're saying. So yeah. So in order
[00:24:25.840] for them to come out and go, "Yeah, this
[00:24:27.440] all exists." They'd have to call
[00:24:28.559] themselves liars. They'd have to admit
[00:24:30.159] to
[00:24:30.799] >> They'd have to admit to They'd have to
[00:24:33.200] admit to murder.
[00:24:34.559] >> Yes.
[00:24:35.120] >> They'd have to admit to harming people,
[00:24:37.600] to silencing them, to entrapping
[00:24:39.662] [clears throat] them. MK Ultra showed us
[00:24:42.240] that in fact, in fact, RCIA was
[00:24:46.640] operating against Americans.
[00:24:49.600] So, we're like, "Oh, we're past that
[00:24:51.520] now." No, we [ __ ] aren't.
[00:24:53.440] >> Hold on. I just want to say I'm a
[00:24:54.640] comedian and this show is just for
[00:24:56.559] entertainment purposes only. [laughter]
[00:24:58.720] and I'm not credible. And uh if I
[00:25:02.080] disappear, you got
[00:25:03.520] >> you know the best thing the best thing
[00:25:04.720] we could say is like so I say I'm a
[00:25:06.400] bearded tattooed [laughter]
[00:25:08.159] um [ __ ] caveman.
[00:25:09.360] >> We're just idiots, guys.
[00:25:10.480] >> With with a good with a good mentor, but
[00:25:12.559] I am a journalist.
[00:25:13.600] >> Yeah, we're [ __ ] Okay. So,
[00:25:15.600] >> yes, we are complete. I am a complete
[00:25:17.840] [ __ ] Unqualified.
[00:25:19.279] >> I'm totally
[00:25:20.159] >> But my shield is that I'm a journalist
[00:25:22.080] because I I go under first amendment
[00:25:24.159] freedom of speech.
[00:25:25.279] >> Okay.
[00:25:25.600] >> Right to report.
[00:25:26.400] >> Just putting it out there. Just comedian
[00:25:28.480] and journalist.
[00:25:29.120] >> Comedian and idiot. No, no. Comedian,
[00:25:31.600] idiot, journalist.
[00:25:32.480] >> Professional fool. Professional idiot.
[00:25:34.400] >> Professional figuring it out.
[00:25:35.840] >> Okay. Okay.
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[00:27:56.559] So go ahead. So the CIA is actively or
[00:27:59.600] were actively
[00:28:00.880] >> I mean that's historical.
[00:28:02.080] >> That's historically. We know everyone
[00:28:03.600] [ __ ]
[00:28:04.240] >> uh about 3 days ago uh a CIA employee
[00:28:07.520] testified in front of Congress saying as
[00:28:10.399] a whistleblower it's about 3 days ago
[00:28:11.760] it's James Erdman III and he says um oh
[00:28:15.279] by the way um I'm a CIA employee the CIA
[00:28:19.039] has been illegally spying on the UAP
[00:28:21.059] [clears throat]
[00:28:21.600] whistleblowers that were brought in. And
[00:28:23.679] by the way I brought them in. I told
[00:28:26.559] them they're probably spying on us, but
[00:28:28.080] I brought them in to to what was called
[00:28:30.640] the dig, the director's initiative under
[00:28:32.799] Tulsi Gabbart, under ODNI. Now, Tulsi, I
[00:28:35.120] think, has no idea that she was lied to
[00:28:37.600] in that report, but I will line by line
[00:28:39.600] explain cuz I documented everything as a
[00:28:42.000] journalist. The lies they were going
[00:28:44.080] after whistleblowers, trying to get them
[00:28:46.240] for treason, trying to go against their
[00:28:48.559] like saying they're racist. They're
[00:28:50.320] trying to do all this [ __ ] to get me and
[00:28:51.679] George to go around being like, "Fuck
[00:28:53.120] these guys. [ __ ] David Gush." Oh, what
[00:28:55.600] liars. But we found out on the news just
[00:28:58.720] 3 days ago. This is not MK Ultra in the
[00:29:00.880] 60s anymore. The CIA was spying on
[00:29:04.640] whistleblowers in the UAP field.
[00:29:07.039] Everybody I brought in to the dig, they
[00:29:09.679] were spying on their phones and
[00:29:11.039] computers and listening in.
[00:29:14.240] And I brought them in because they told
[00:29:16.159] me that they would be absolutely
[00:29:18.559] protected under whistleblower law. It is
[00:29:20.720] the most illegal thing other than the
[00:29:22.799] thing I'm about to tell you.
[00:29:25.279] They were running an operation out of
[00:29:27.200] ODNI without Tulsi knowing and I want
[00:29:30.399] her to know this so she will find out.
[00:29:32.720] Um
[00:29:34.799] against Congress
[00:29:37.600] Congress is supposed to be watching all
[00:29:39.520] this.
[00:29:40.080] >> Yeah.
[00:29:40.559] >> But if if if if ODNI if
[00:29:43.200] >> what's ODNI
[00:29:44.240] >> um
[00:29:44.880] >> office of the director of national
[00:29:46.320] intelligence. So Tulsi is the director
[00:29:48.320] of national intelligence. So, the office
[00:29:50.080] of the director of national intelligence
[00:29:51.440] had a program called the dig. And and
[00:29:53.360] shout out to the employees at the dig
[00:29:55.600] who really were great people. They like
[00:29:58.080] there are people in the in that dig in
[00:30:00.960] and that government investigation who
[00:30:02.880] are goodhearted and ready to rock and
[00:30:05.039] wanted to get to the corruption, but
[00:30:07.520] there's factions like small groups that
[00:30:10.159] are tasked to infiltrate, get into these
[00:30:12.320] government operations. They called me
[00:30:14.559] first, me and George first. And because
[00:30:16.720] they don't know who to call or they said
[00:30:18.960] they didn't, my lawyer is like they know
[00:30:20.480] who to call. They know where the
[00:30:21.600] solicitors are. But like my point to you
[00:30:24.320] is that this is not ancient history.
[00:30:27.200] >> This is 3 days ago.
[00:30:29.200] >> The CIA is spying on its own.
[00:30:31.600] >> Well, what do you what do you think this
[00:30:32.720] is? This thing [ __ ] listens to you,
[00:30:34.480] too.
[00:30:34.720] >> Well, that's why I always tell people
[00:30:35.919] what I want them to know. I am naked and
[00:30:38.880] ready to [laughter] have a beer.
[00:30:40.480] >> I mean, Hold on. Hold on. I got to pee.
[00:30:42.399] I'm so excited and I drink too much
[00:30:44.399] coffee and water. Let me take a pitch
[00:30:45.760] break. Take a piss break. No, I'm going
[00:30:47.600] to drink a beer break right here.
[00:30:49.600] >> So, allegedly the CIA is uh doing things
[00:30:53.520] that are stuff not good.
[00:30:55.440] >> That allegedly is reported
[00:30:57.840] by a CIA agent.
[00:30:59.200] >> Great. So, that's part of the story,
[00:31:01.279] which is [ __ ] insane. But I also want
[00:31:03.840] to play a clip from your podcast,
[00:31:08.159] Weaponized, that you do with George Nap.
[00:31:11.120] This [ __ ] threeparter. I watched with
[00:31:15.679] Matthew Brown, the Immaculate
[00:31:17.679] Constellation, the author of a document
[00:31:20.080] called the Immaculate Constellation.
[00:31:22.720] I was so blown away by a this man's
[00:31:25.279] courage and how [ __ ] nervous he
[00:31:27.440] looked. If you watch this guy's face,
[00:31:30.240] >> there's no way he's lying. He is
[00:31:32.000] [ __ ] his pants the entire [ __ ]
[00:31:34.000] time he's talking to you. [laughter]
[00:31:36.799] >> So, let's let's set up what that was.
[00:31:38.960] What is the Immaculate Constellation?
[00:31:40.799] And who is Matthew Brown?
[00:31:42.080] >> Right? So people get a little confused
[00:31:44.559] and it is a
[00:31:45.360] >> is it me?
[00:31:46.000] >> It no no and it's a large story. Um but
[00:31:50.559] he is the author where it was like a
[00:31:54.559] report that he I I get the words
[00:31:56.399] confused. He did a report cuz I told him
[00:31:59.039] we're talking about what do you do? He
[00:32:00.880] created this report that showed what he
[00:32:03.360] was exposed to.
[00:32:05.360] >> But immaculate constellation was the
[00:32:06.880] name of a program where there was an
[00:32:08.880] intelligence product on a server and he
[00:32:11.360] caught it. He's like, "This isn't
[00:32:12.399] supposed to be here. I wasn't supposed
[00:32:13.279] to see this. This is highly classified."
[00:32:15.120] And he like tells his superiors and
[00:32:17.120] they're like, "Okay."
[00:32:19.120] And then it's deleted. And he's like,
[00:32:20.480] "Am I in trouble?" So he is like a
[00:32:22.960] dogooder and he is so smart though. And
[00:32:26.640] so he essentially tried to do everything
[00:32:29.840] right within government as a patriot.
[00:32:32.880] But when he saw the crimes that were
[00:32:34.720] committed, stuff that he can't even talk
[00:32:36.559] about yet to this day, it's not Doppser
[00:32:38.799] cleared, which means cleared by the
[00:32:40.480] government. You got to ask them. But he
[00:32:42.399] has testified behind closed doors. I
[00:32:44.799] snuck him in as camera crew into
[00:32:46.640] Congress and they trust me. I said, "I
[00:32:48.960] got one guy in here. We had to get in.
[00:32:50.799] Everybody else is going to leave. Is
[00:32:52.000] that okay with you?" But it's just the
[00:32:53.120] three of us. Like u three congressional
[00:32:55.760] and senatorial people. Okay. Each one
[00:32:58.799] said, "Okay, first contact. Matthew
[00:33:01.679] Brown. I did this way before the story
[00:33:04.240] became known,
[00:33:06.399] >> right? This was before the story became
[00:33:07.840] known.
[00:33:09.440] People don't know that. And that kid is
[00:33:11.840] a [ __ ] patriot. He is a personal hero
[00:33:15.440] >> and he is vulnerable,
[00:33:17.519] >> but the more he puts his face out there,
[00:33:19.120] the less vulnerable he is. But what he
[00:33:20.960] did was he saw a document that was about
[00:33:26.720] UFOs, videos, photos, all this [ __ ] And
[00:33:30.720] he read it and his mind was [ __ ]
[00:33:32.480] blown. And then he tried to report that
[00:33:35.760] this document was like, "Guys, it's an
[00:33:38.240] intel link." like anybody can share
[00:33:40.480] within this intelligence circuit. This
[00:33:43.039] is higher classification. It's not
[00:33:44.640] supposed to be there.
[00:33:45.600] >> Yeah. What's it doing there?
[00:33:47.120] >> So, somebody people make mistakes, man.
[00:33:49.279] It's like
[00:33:49.679] >> or is it disinformation?
[00:33:51.600] >> No. And we know it's not and there's a
[00:33:53.360] reason why. But that's a really deep
[00:33:54.880] conversation. But macula constellation
[00:33:56.880] is a program. It has gone by different
[00:33:59.760] names. And essentially what it does is
[00:34:03.919] before the average intelligence
[00:34:06.480] community can see footage from like
[00:34:08.800] actionable events in flight, it uses an
[00:34:12.079] AI to take out all the UAP UFOs. So
[00:34:17.359] instead of like NASA airbrushing [ __ ]
[00:34:19.280] out, which they got caught doing, right?
[00:34:21.520] >> This was
[00:34:23.040] >> a highlevel artificial intelligence
[00:34:26.000] >> and immaculate constellation is a part
[00:34:27.599] of a constellation of UAP programs.
[00:34:30.000] Okay. And this was a defensive program
[00:34:31.839] to make sure the intelligence community,
[00:34:33.359] the average intel agent at CIA, FBI or
[00:34:37.280] DoD or DOE or all any of them don't see
[00:34:40.879] the UAPs.
[00:34:42.800] >> That's what it was. And he stumbled
[00:34:44.480] across it. He's like, "Fuck, this ain't
[00:34:46.399] right. Somebody's siloing this
[00:34:48.320] information." That's who Matthew Brown
[00:34:50.560] is. Matthew Brown is a patriot. He's a
[00:34:52.800] hero of mine like Dylan Borland is. And
[00:34:55.679] David Grush is. And um, man, that's
[00:34:58.079] Matthew Brown. Well, let me play this
[00:34:59.839] clip. This is literally and I think I've
[00:35:02.320] watched this man talk like I said a few
[00:35:04.640] times, but the very end of the third
[00:35:08.320] episode is like I'm getting chills just
[00:35:11.359] now because watch this guy talk and you
[00:35:14.000] [ __ ] tell me if he's lying as [ __ ]
[00:35:16.000] Um,
[00:35:17.119] >> it look man, if if if you were to die
[00:35:20.480] tomorrow because of whatever reason,
[00:35:23.520] what do you want people to know right
[00:35:25.359] now? Like what do you want people to
[00:35:27.040] know if you're just like [ __ ] gone?
[00:35:28.800] >> Look at his face. God,
[00:35:34.960] >> you are not free.
[00:35:37.839] And this reality has far more to it than
[00:35:41.119] you have been allowed to believe.
[00:35:44.560] And God is real.
[00:35:48.400] Boom. Unpack that. Yeah.
[00:35:52.640] Right.
[00:35:55.920] I know.
[00:35:58.640] It's It's And you guys, you have to
[00:36:00.560] watch the whole thing because it's so
[00:36:04.560] There's so much that I want him to be
[00:36:06.320] able to say. Do you need a minute,
[00:36:07.520] buddy?
[00:36:07.920] >> Just want to think.
[00:36:08.560] >> Yeah. Yeah. Go take a minute.
[00:36:10.160] >> Sorry. Go ahead.
[00:36:10.960] >> You know, let's What the heck is this
[00:36:13.520] guy saying? There's so much there. God
[00:36:15.599] is real. The reality [snorts] that we
[00:36:17.280] live in, and he goes on to say, is
[00:36:19.119] highly curated. The science that we know
[00:36:21.520] is not the science that exists. It's
[00:36:23.760] like so many things.
[00:36:25.200] >> Yeah. He didn't say all that. I think he
[00:36:27.040] said three things. You know, you're not
[00:36:28.800] free.
[00:36:29.200] >> Not in that clip.
[00:36:30.240] >> So, but let's look at what he said.
[00:36:31.440] >> Yeah.
[00:36:32.079] >> You're not free.
[00:36:33.119] >> Yeah.
[00:36:34.000] >> So, whatever he was exposed to, he
[00:36:36.720] interprets as you not being free. Now,
[00:36:40.240] we all react to information in different
[00:36:41.920] ways, but I would agree with him. We're
[00:36:44.000] not free. If we were free, then we would
[00:36:47.200] have the information that is being
[00:36:48.640] hidden from us. Then we'd have freedom
[00:36:51.119] of speech and debate. then we'd have
[00:36:53.280] freedom of thought. So if you don't have
[00:36:55.520] freedom of thought because someone's
[00:36:57.280] holding information from you, you ain't
[00:36:58.960] free and you don't even know you're a
[00:37:00.240] prisoner. I think that's what he meant.
[00:37:02.720] >> He should speak for himself.
[00:37:05.040] >> Second thing he said,
[00:37:08.079] >> I don't [ __ ] remember what he said.
[00:37:09.280] >> God is real.
[00:37:09.920] >> No, no, that's the last thing to get to
[00:37:11.200] that. Um,
[00:37:11.599] >> wait, let's watch it again.
[00:37:12.560] >> Yeah,
[00:37:13.119] >> let's let's see it cuz it's this gave me
[00:37:16.000] the chill. Sorry. I wish I could. If you
[00:37:18.640] were to die tomorrow because of whatever
[00:37:22.079] reason, what do you want people to know
[00:37:24.480] right now? Like, what do you want people
[00:37:26.320] to know if you're just like [ __ ]
[00:37:27.760] gone?
[00:37:30.605] [snorts]
[00:37:34.400] >> You are not free.
[00:37:35.760] >> Okay.
[00:37:37.280] >> And this reality has far more to it than
[00:37:40.560] you have been allowed to believe. Bam.
[00:37:43.920] >> So, that is true. People don't have all
[00:37:46.400] the information,
[00:37:48.160] but they've been holding a big [ __ ]
[00:37:50.800] truth away from the American public and
[00:37:52.960] and the global public. Although the
[00:37:55.119] global public, a lot of people already
[00:37:56.800] know cuz they've experienced it
[00:37:57.920] themselves. That's why UFO thing is like
[00:38:00.320] in movies. It's cuz art imitates life.
[00:38:04.320] So, people have experienced that.
[00:38:05.760] >> Now, the last thing that you brought up
[00:38:08.000] >> and he says, um, God is real. That was a
[00:38:11.040] very emotional moment. And I'll tell you
[00:38:12.720] what was happening at that second. I
[00:38:14.800] think at this time I can tell you what
[00:38:16.400] was happening at this second but that's
[00:38:18.640] his just personal faith. I you know I'm
[00:38:20.880] not a religious person. So for him he's
[00:38:24.560] saying God is real. Whatever that means
[00:38:25.920] to him. So you have to separate those
[00:38:28.000] three sentences. The first two are
[00:38:30.800] factual things that I know to be true.
[00:38:33.680] The third thing God is real. Well that's
[00:38:36.800] that comes down to your own personal
[00:38:38.400] thing. You know I have my own personal
[00:38:40.720] thing when it comes to religion or
[00:38:42.960] spirituality. whatever the [ __ ] people
[00:38:44.480] call it, you know, source, you know, how
[00:38:46.960] you were [ __ ] created. So, I just
[00:38:48.320] want to separate for him. To him, that's
[00:38:50.079] important to him. He's like that was
[00:38:53.839] like a a message of of hope. Like, so no
[00:38:56.800] matter what [ __ ] we get, he's saying,
[00:39:00.320] and you should ask him, not me, but
[00:39:02.480] saying God is real. So, it was a very
[00:39:05.520] powerful three-part statement. It's not
[00:39:08.320] like he read about God in classified
[00:39:10.480] documents, right?
[00:39:13.359] But the other two things he knows for a
[00:39:15.359] fact and so do I. You are not free
[00:39:18.960] unless you have information. The
[00:39:20.640] information right that's you're not free
[00:39:22.800] if you don't have all the information.
[00:39:23.920] That's the way I interpret it and I
[00:39:25.839] agree with that. And the second thing he
[00:39:28.240] said is so clear and true and and you
[00:39:32.160] are not allowed to know the nature of
[00:39:33.599] reality and that is [ __ ] And that
[00:39:36.079] comes from both a scientific standpoint.
[00:39:39.040] There are certain equations that are
[00:39:40.800] classified. What the [ __ ]
[00:39:43.440] >> That is fact. What the [ __ ]
[00:39:45.359] >> Certain equations that are quite
[00:39:46.960] >> Yeah. Like um the our physics there is a
[00:39:50.880] >> small set of physics from how I
[00:39:52.560] understand it that is so dangerous that
[00:39:56.079] it is classified. Give you an example
[00:39:57.680] that you know of how to create an atomic
[00:40:00.720] bomb. But that's easy. You know people
[00:40:03.520] understand that now. Uh I mean the
[00:40:06.400] average person doesn't thank God but
[00:40:07.680] they know nuclear physics exists right?
[00:40:10.480] But there are equations from what I know
[00:40:14.880] and I I'm not like smart. I don't know
[00:40:16.400] what they mean. But like there are
[00:40:17.440] equations that are classified. Why? So
[00:40:19.599] the nature of reality itself,
[00:40:22.880] something about the nature of reality
[00:40:24.400] itself is being held back from human
[00:40:27.119] beings. Now I understand you don't put
[00:40:29.440] out equations for like a power source
[00:40:32.079] because that could be weaponized. So
[00:40:34.240] that should stay classified in America.
[00:40:37.520] But the fundamental truth that we are
[00:40:40.400] not alone
[00:40:41.760] >> that there is a nonhuman intelligence
[00:40:43.920] that has been engaging humanity
[00:40:46.720] since the dawn of time or record of
[00:40:49.440] human history. Who has the right to not
[00:40:51.599] to hide that from you? And they have
[00:40:52.960] been hiding it from you straight up. So
[00:40:55.599] now is the levy breaking?
[00:40:59.280] You know, have we kicked him in the
[00:41:00.800] balls and made him fall onto the ground
[00:41:02.640] and vomit up the truth?
[00:41:05.040] >> Let's [ __ ] find out. And I'm ready to
[00:41:06.800] go.
[00:41:07.200] >> [ __ ] around and find out. Sleeping dog.
[00:41:09.119] >> Yeah. Sleeping dog bite [laughter] me.
[00:41:10.319] So what? I taken many bites. Life is
[00:41:12.000] full of pain. Kick that [ __ ] sleeping
[00:41:14.400] dog. I did.
[00:41:15.760] >> Well, let me tell you what's what's
[00:41:17.200] fascinating because I do think David
[00:41:18.880] Grush
[00:41:21.200] >> uh didn't allude to it. Said it right
[00:41:23.520] out in the congressional hearing that
[00:41:26.240] I've watched a few times. He said, and I
[00:41:29.440] [ __ ] had to like read about it, learn
[00:41:31.200] about it. There there are
[00:41:32.800] interdimensional beings. We inhabit an
[00:41:36.160] interdimensional world. Like there's
[00:41:38.480] basically another dimension that exists
[00:41:40.720] alongside us right here that we just
[00:41:42.960] cannot perceive because of our meat our
[00:41:46.640] meat containers,
[00:41:48.560] >> right? Am I am I paraphrasing grush
[00:41:51.440] >> properly? Cuz he said interdimensional.
[00:41:53.599] Well, I I I think that I I don't know
[00:41:56.240] his exact words in Congress that day,
[00:41:58.000] but there was a a silence moment that
[00:42:00.079] I'll tell you about where everybody just
[00:42:01.920] [ __ ] stopped.
[00:42:04.560] You know, I got him to get him to
[00:42:06.800] testify took a long time. Not not he
[00:42:09.760] wanted to.
[00:42:11.200] >> There was so much resistance to getting
[00:42:13.440] him up there because he's credible and
[00:42:15.920] so is Commander Fraver and so is Ryan
[00:42:17.599] Graves. I've worked so hard each time to
[00:42:20.720] get those people up there just so you
[00:42:22.160] can hear them put their hand to God and
[00:42:24.079] put their hand to the American public
[00:42:25.760] under oath because otherwise just people
[00:42:27.760] talking, right? Yeah.
[00:42:28.880] >> So, I fought for that with Rep. Luna
[00:42:31.119] with the originally with Representative
[00:42:33.359] Burchett
[00:42:34.400] >> who's my homie balls like Church Bells
[00:42:37.520] and then um Rep. Berles is now the
[00:42:40.880] champion. All three of them and a ton of
[00:42:43.760] people that don't want to be known for
[00:42:45.280] this are fighting behind the scenes. So,
[00:42:48.240] he did say the word interdimensional,
[00:42:50.240] I'm sure, but he put it in a caveat like
[00:42:53.760] why he popularized
[00:42:56.319] NHI, non-human intelligence instead of
[00:42:58.960] alien is because it's more complicated
[00:43:02.800] in the assessment of the government
[00:43:05.520] than just like an alien from another
[00:43:07.280] planet. So, one of those options is what
[00:43:10.800] we call interdimensional. right now. I
[00:43:14.400] can give you the four or five top
[00:43:15.839] theories on from government like what
[00:43:19.920] these beings and um pilots and
[00:43:24.640] intelligences are cuz it it may be much
[00:43:27.040] stranger.
[00:43:28.800] >> Great. Let's hear it cuz nonhuman
[00:43:30.720] biologics is another one that he kept
[00:43:32.720] saying.
[00:43:33.280] >> So David Grush, non-human intelligence.
[00:43:34.880] So you words are weapons, right? So if
[00:43:36.960] you say alien, okay, that's a very
[00:43:38.960] limited scope. You're talking about a a
[00:43:40.640] being from another planet. But if you
[00:43:42.240] say a non-human intelligence, you can
[00:43:43.760] >> He said non-human biologics.
[00:43:45.599] >> We'll get to biologics, but I want to
[00:43:47.280] deal with the first thing you said about
[00:43:48.319] interdimensional. Okay. So nonhuman
[00:43:50.720] intelligence is the idea that if it's
[00:43:53.520] not human and it's hyper intelligent or
[00:43:55.599] just intelligent, right? Then that's a
[00:43:57.040] non-human intelligence. We're talking
[00:43:59.599] about people though that make craft that
[00:44:02.079] can outperform anything we have in our
[00:44:03.839] arsenals. So what the [ __ ] So when he
[00:44:06.880] said interdimensional and you should ask
[00:44:08.880] him directly, he is conveying what a lot
[00:44:13.119] of us have talked about for a long time.
[00:44:15.599] We don't know the origins the the
[00:44:18.079] ultimate origins of these craft. Now
[00:44:20.480] they do appear to be designed to travel
[00:44:22.960] amongst the stars. So like I always make
[00:44:26.240] the joke, why would you make a Ferrari
[00:44:27.520] if you didn't want to [ __ ] go fast,
[00:44:28.960] right? Why would you make something that
[00:44:30.480] could travel amongst stars if you
[00:44:31.599] didn't? So that leads me personally to
[00:44:34.160] think at least part of this UFO
[00:44:35.839] phenomenon is interstellar,
[00:44:38.640] right? Going to other star systems or
[00:44:42.079] maybe galaxies because there's no limit
[00:44:44.560] on how these things work. I used to
[00:44:46.000] think distance mattered when I was a kid
[00:44:48.319] till I heard Bob Lazar and I realized
[00:44:49.839] that distance doesn't matter if they
[00:44:51.760] propel through non-reactionary
[00:44:53.200] propulsion systems.
[00:44:54.079] >> That's right. Which is a huge part of
[00:44:55.440] this.
[00:44:55.920] >> We'll get there, but I want to directly
[00:44:57.440] answer your questions. I'm not accused
[00:44:58.720] of it. Okay. So check it out.
[00:45:01.280] interdimensional.
[00:45:02.800] >> Yeah.
[00:45:03.520] >> If you understand what that means, then
[00:45:05.440] you are far the [ __ ] ahead of me because
[00:45:07.520] I can't live in this dimension. I don't
[00:45:10.160] know what that means. I know a Rubik's
[00:45:11.760] cube. I know like you look at drawings
[00:45:14.000] of squares that end up being
[00:45:15.440] three-dimensional.
[00:45:16.640] >> Interdimensional.
[00:45:18.160] Okay. So, that would suggest that there
[00:45:21.280] is another that there's have you ever
[00:45:23.359] watched Stranger Things?
[00:45:24.880] >> Okay. Okay. So there's an up that would
[00:45:25.920] suggest an upside down. That would
[00:45:27.440] suggest that there is something that is
[00:45:29.839] always present and right here. And it's
[00:45:32.640] like our eyes only see a certain
[00:45:34.960] >> spectrum. Our hears ears only hear a
[00:45:37.359] certain spectrum. But that's it's deeper
[00:45:39.440] than that. It's saying that there is a
[00:45:42.319] world
[00:45:43.839] within perforating surrounding touching
[00:45:47.680] manipulating interfacing with what we
[00:45:50.560] know to be tangible reality. So the
[00:45:54.079] common thought now is that these craft
[00:45:57.599] are not just from other planets but
[00:46:01.599] there may be visitation where they're
[00:46:04.319] perforating dimensionally
[00:46:07.280] our environment and we see glimpses of
[00:46:10.960] them like you would see a piece of paper
[00:46:15.040] I'll do this and it just pokes through
[00:46:16.880] and you see I had to do that and it
[00:46:19.040] pokes through that is the idea right
[00:46:21.839] like instead of seeing a circle.
[00:46:25.280] That circle is two-dimensional, but
[00:46:27.440] that's an or let's say it's an orange,
[00:46:28.880] it's a sphere. So, if that's what he's
[00:46:31.359] saying, which it is, one possibility is
[00:46:34.800] that these visitors or watchers
[00:46:40.800] are from another dimension. But there's
[00:46:44.400] other options. Extraterrestrial,
[00:46:47.280] interdimensional,
[00:46:48.880] extroral.
[00:46:51.280] You you also have the idea of breakaway
[00:46:54.960] civilizations as if they're just [ __ ]
[00:46:57.520] from here and they're living in the damn
[00:46:59.520] ocean and
[00:47:00.480] >> well that's another one that they're
[00:47:01.920] supposedly well not supposedly. There's
[00:47:03.520] people reporting that they're seeing
[00:47:04.640] crafts coming out of the ocean. There's
[00:47:07.680] something with the ocean.
[00:47:08.560] >> Well, there is and there's a reason
[00:47:10.640] because of the physics of the craft that
[00:47:12.319] that is a fact.
[00:47:14.560] But you you also have just the idea of
[00:47:17.520] ultraterrestrial, right? Howal Putoff
[00:47:19.760] talked about this. It's the idea that
[00:47:21.920] it's a civilization that did some
[00:47:23.839] amazing things and when there was a
[00:47:26.240] cataclysm, they used their technology
[00:47:28.880] and have been here all along
[00:47:30.720] >> like the Anunnaki.
[00:47:31.839] >> I don't know. [laughter] I don't know.
[00:47:34.079] >> I don't know. But they're here. I'm so
[00:47:36.560] excited.
[00:47:36.960] >> Technot
[00:47:39.119] weird [ __ ] Okay. So, sorry. Let just
[00:47:41.280] just to wrap my brain around this. Are
[00:47:43.200] you suggesting one of the theories is
[00:47:45.200] that we are the byproduct of like aliens
[00:47:49.280] basically like they came here they
[00:47:51.520] [ __ ] a bunch of us and created us
[00:47:53.440] >> or just man manipulated our genetic code
[00:47:56.720] and helped build us so we could build
[00:47:58.960] tech my favorite theory is
[00:48:00.000] technotaterrestrial
[00:48:01.440] >> um that's what I call it. So I I'm came
[00:48:03.920] up with this idea many years ago but I
[00:48:05.680] think it's like an old idea but we've
[00:48:07.599] only had modern technological revolution
[00:48:09.280] for like the last 100 years maybe 50
[00:48:11.200] years. I mean what the internet just
[00:48:12.560] [ __ ]
[00:48:13.599] >> right [snorts]
[00:48:14.319] >> fiber optics hello
[00:48:15.520] >> so I'm calling it technoaterrestrial but
[00:48:17.520] the idea is that
[00:48:20.160] >> this is something that happens all
[00:48:22.000] amongst galaxies that there is
[00:48:25.760] >> a a artificial intelligence that has
[00:48:29.040] decided to self-replicate
[00:48:32.319] for some sort of byproduct which I don't
[00:48:35.040] understand completely that we were
[00:48:37.200] manipulated
[00:48:38.713] [sighs]
[00:48:39.280] >> genetically to become from humans.
[00:48:42.559] >> Yeah.
[00:48:43.119] >> With sentient intelligence.
[00:48:45.119] >> Yes.
[00:48:45.680] >> And self-awareness. And we are [ __ ]
[00:48:48.640] focused on building what they wanted us
[00:48:52.240] to build. That's one theory. So I'm I'm
[00:48:54.160] just telling I don't know. But these are
[00:48:56.000] the popular theories in government that
[00:48:58.000] I've heard in skiffs. Like in official
[00:49:00.480] secret.
[00:49:01.040] >> I know what a skiff is. I know what a
[00:49:02.480] skiff is.
[00:49:02.880] >> You're just [ __ ] ready.
[00:49:03.680] >> I don't really know what a skiff is.
[00:49:04.559] She's CIA.
[00:49:06.559] I've I've heard this theory that we're
[00:49:08.640] supposed to reach a level of
[00:49:10.720] technological
[00:49:12.319] development and then at that time we are
[00:49:15.200] able to make contact or something.
[00:49:16.800] >> Who told you that the aliens and
[00:49:18.020] [laughter] [ __ ]
[00:49:18.800] >> I've talked to weird people.
[00:49:20.480] >> Yeah. But do you believe that?
[00:49:22.079] >> No.
[00:49:22.880] >> But it's okay. But I mean, do you
[00:49:24.160] believe that? Because I don't know the
[00:49:25.440] answer.
[00:49:25.680] >> I I don't have the answer. I I think
[00:49:27.920] Okay. Okay. So, here's here's something
[00:49:29.040] I wanted to ask you about, and I'm I'm
[00:49:30.960] leaning more towards John Lear's theory,
[00:49:34.000] >> that is in your documentary, Sleeping
[00:49:36.559] Dog, which is out right now. You guys
[00:49:38.240] have to watch this.
[00:49:38.960] >> This this kid, Michael Lazovski, made it
[00:49:41.200] uh not at my behest. I had to ask my mom
[00:49:43.920] and my wife and my dog if it was okay. I
[00:49:46.480] was [ __ ] pissed at first. I gave him
[00:49:48.400] 20 years of footage to go make UFO
[00:49:50.079] movies and then he turns the camera
[00:49:51.440] around. Convinced me it would protect
[00:49:53.599] me. People needed to see this. So, so I
[00:49:56.000] just want to be clear. I did. It's not
[00:49:57.359] my movie. I gave him footage.
[00:49:59.520] Michaelski, he's a gangster. We're
[00:50:01.440] either gonna love him, kill him. My
[00:50:02.720] mom's gonna kill him if it ends up
[00:50:04.079] hurting us.
[00:50:04.720] >> It won't.
[00:50:05.599] >> I have to say that it was lovely to see
[00:50:08.000] your personal side and to also see your
[00:50:11.280] relationship with George Knap and John
[00:50:13.920] Leer cuz I have only ever seen you and
[00:50:15.760] George like, you know, at a podcast or
[00:50:17.920] on Rogan or whatever. And it's really
[00:50:20.160] lovely. You guys have such a nice
[00:50:22.000] dynamic as you did with John.
[00:50:23.359] >> He's really my best friend.
[00:50:24.640] >> Yeah, I believe it. For real. He's my
[00:50:26.400] He's my mentor. He's cool as [ __ ] He
[00:50:29.440] teaches me [ __ ]
[00:50:30.640] >> Yeah,
[00:50:31.520] >> he's a real G. He's an OG.
[00:50:32.880] >> He is a [ __ ]
[00:50:34.800] George Knap is the [ __ ]
[00:50:36.720] >> He's rad. Um, but I wanted to ask you
[00:50:39.680] about John Lear's theory of souls
[00:50:41.599] because I think so. Another theory I've
[00:50:44.400] heard Rogan talk about is that we are
[00:50:46.720] being harvested for our souls.
[00:50:48.400] >> That comes from John Leair.
[00:50:49.680] >> Okay.
[00:50:51.760] I think that Earth is some kind of a
[00:50:53.839] penal colony. Honestly, I don't think
[00:50:55.599] it's a penal
[00:50:56.559] >> pener a penis colony. We just butt [ __ ]
[00:50:59.119] each other.
[00:50:59.680] >> Oh my god. I've heard [laughter] about
[00:51:01.200] it. So, what's going on with that?
[00:51:03.200] >> But I the penals. What is What are we
[00:51:06.319] talking about?
[00:51:06.960] >> Penal colony.
[00:51:07.760] >> Oh, like a prison.
[00:51:09.280] >> Oh, the prison planet.
[00:51:11.040] >> I think so. And I think there's
[00:51:13.040] something to our souls having to be
[00:51:17.359] worked on. And that's maybe why we're
[00:51:19.200] here. But tell me John Leer's theory cuz
[00:51:21.040] he thinks like the grays are involved
[00:51:22.880] and and the moon is like a
[00:51:25.359] >> Well, John Leer had no um filter like
[00:51:27.920] all his marbles were like going in and
[00:51:29.760] out and in and out and I couldn't keep
[00:51:31.359] track of it. But some things he said
[00:51:33.200] were absolutely true and he connected me
[00:51:34.880] with a whole bunch of highle people
[00:51:37.680] because they all came to him cuz he had
[00:51:39.200] this special talent of like listening.
[00:51:41.200] What he's really doing was ready to tell
[00:51:42.880] everybody. The guy had like the biggest
[00:51:44.480] mouth ever. Um, so I I don't know which
[00:51:48.079] of your questions to answer because the
[00:51:50.480] the idea did come from John, although it
[00:51:53.520] was it's an older idea that we are on a
[00:51:56.240] prison planet. The penal colony as you
[00:51:58.240] call the penis colony.
[00:51:59.119] >> The penis colony. Exactly. So that
[00:52:02.240] that's um
[00:52:03.359] >> Yeah,
[00:52:03.839] >> that's one also the zoo theory that like
[00:52:06.480] um you know it's just like we're cool to
[00:52:08.880] watch. I mean, we [ __ ] watch like
[00:52:11.040] little, you know, amiebas. Like, we're
[00:52:13.680] cool to watch, just like entertainment.
[00:52:16.000] >> That's true. I mean, I like to watch my
[00:52:18.000] cats just do stupid things. And humans
[00:52:20.000] are so stupid and we're so rife with
[00:52:22.960] conflict and problems.
[00:52:25.119] >> Maybe the best show on planet Earth.
[00:52:26.640] Planet Earth. Best show in the solar
[00:52:28.319] system. I bet. Not bragging.
[00:52:30.319] >> Well, no. I mean, there's a reason
[00:52:31.280] reality television. We finally turned
[00:52:33.040] the camera on ourselves. How stupid we
[00:52:34.880] all are. It's [ __ ] great. I
[00:52:36.240] >> I don't know. [clears throat] stupid
[00:52:37.040] because also inspiring like um
[00:52:40.960] despite our stupidity um you see
[00:52:44.400] bravery, you see humor, you see so so I
[00:52:48.240] I I love human beings. You know how like
[00:52:51.359] um
[00:52:52.559] >> you know how we put up these barriers uh
[00:52:54.559] and we're like
[00:52:56.240] >> I'm different than you. Okay. So I I
[00:52:58.400] [ __ ] love humans. I'm sorry. I'm an
[00:53:00.240] extrovert. you know, and um the idea of
[00:53:03.440] like a prison planet. If you want to go
[00:53:05.440] dark, let's go dark. What he told me?
[00:53:08.000] >> Yeah. What's his exact theory?
[00:53:09.520] >> Yeah.
[00:53:09.920] >> Prison planet.
[00:53:11.200] >> So, we are containers.
[00:53:14.319] >> I [snorts] got to smoke containers for
[00:53:15.920] souls.
[00:53:16.160] >> I [ __ ] wish I could smoke with you
[00:53:17.440] cuz the valley fever thing. I can't have
[00:53:18.880] a cigarette.
[00:53:19.280] >> I know you got that when you were a
[00:53:20.480] youngster.
[00:53:21.280] >> Yeah, youngster.
[00:53:22.960] >> Okay, hold on. But our souls are
[00:53:24.400] containers and then the the aliens want
[00:53:27.280] us to preserve the container because
[00:53:29.200] they take our souls, right? Like our
[00:53:31.359] souls are food.
[00:53:32.240] >> I don't know what happens after you
[00:53:34.079] crack a beer other than it goes into my
[00:53:35.920] mouth and I drink it. But his theory was
[00:53:39.359] that and and funny enough they they
[00:53:42.000] actually gave this to Bob Lazar in a
[00:53:44.000] briefing and Bob is so a nerd. He is a
[00:53:49.200] science nerd. God bless his heart. He
[00:53:52.640] but he is so analytical and he's had to
[00:53:54.880] be on the defensive so he's really
[00:53:56.559] careful. He read a briefing that said
[00:53:58.880] that human beings were genetically
[00:54:00.319] altered like 46 times or something and
[00:54:03.520] that that's like even Jesus was
[00:54:07.119] um like an alien basically a hybrid
[00:54:10.480] where they genetically all you're like
[00:54:11.680] sure that's not believable now after
[00:54:14.240] everything we've seen in the last 5
[00:54:15.359] years.
[00:54:15.680] >> Yeah. But what what isn't believe like
[00:54:17.200] Yeah. Okay. I mean
[00:54:18.160] >> Okay. So I'm just saying like I I don't
[00:54:20.240] speculate as a journalist. This is not
[00:54:23.200] right now. We are talking theory. Okay.
[00:54:25.839] So John Leer said
[00:54:28.319] we are containers for souls and that
[00:54:32.400] aliens like the grays are cybernetic
[00:54:35.520] organisms. They're biologically printed,
[00:54:37.520] but they have an AI hive mind. And they
[00:54:40.000] are here to take care of their product
[00:54:43.839] like we would a Kobe beef. We'd give
[00:54:46.319] them beer and massage them till the day
[00:54:48.880] we eat them. Okay, so that was John
[00:54:51.280] Lear's theory that human beings were
[00:54:53.280] maturing like a fine wine, a soul
[00:54:56.400] through human experience, pain, love,
[00:55:01.119] [ __ ] um
[00:55:04.240] all emotions would mature that soul.
[00:55:06.640] Maybe learning learning.
[00:55:08.400] >> Yes. Yes. To evolve your soul,
[00:55:09.920] >> right? So evolve mature the soul. And
[00:55:13.280] but John Leer said, "But we're we're a
[00:55:15.280] product.
[00:55:16.720] >> We're a commodity."
[00:55:18.640] >> Yes.
[00:55:19.040] >> To a higher intelligence than the grays.
[00:55:21.839] That's what he said.
[00:55:23.839] >> And I started laughing my ass off when
[00:55:25.599] he told me that, right? Because I was
[00:55:27.119] because, you know, this is like, you
[00:55:28.079] know, 15 years ago. I'm like laughing my
[00:55:30.480] ass off. What the [ __ ] is this guy
[00:55:32.160] talking about? Um Lazar did read in a
[00:55:34.960] briefing memo that he was given a whole
[00:55:36.800] bunch a whole stack
[00:55:38.480] >> and he doesn't know what is
[00:55:39.839] misinformation to see if he goes and
[00:55:41.760] leaks it. So, like why would they tell a
[00:55:44.400] guy coming to work on a propulsion
[00:55:45.920] system that [ __ ] Jesus was a hybrid
[00:55:48.400] and that the grays call us containers
[00:55:51.359] and we call the grays kids.
[00:55:53.520] >> The kids cuz they're short. Like, it
[00:55:55.359] doesn't make any sense they would show
[00:55:56.799] him that. So, we think it's
[00:55:58.240] disinformation and what they call
[00:55:59.520] passage material. Yeah.
[00:56:00.799] >> So, that's John Lear's theory that you
[00:56:03.200] asked for. Did that answer your
[00:56:05.040] question?
[00:56:05.440] >> Yes. Totally.
[00:56:06.880] >> Well, then that would give the grays a
[00:56:08.720] whole lot of power over us. And from
[00:56:10.960] what I've been told, the grays are not
[00:56:12.720] like that intelligent. They're just like
[00:56:15.680] soldiers.
[00:56:16.720] >> I never met one.
[00:56:17.599] >> I never met one either. But
[00:56:18.640] >> I have friends that have like
[00:56:20.160] legitimately documented by tons of other
[00:56:22.799] witnesses. There's two females. Um,
[00:56:25.520] shout out to Lisel and Salma. Aerial
[00:56:28.720] school. There was a landing of
[00:56:30.240] >> Oh, yeah. The aerial school phenomenon.
[00:56:31.680] I've seen that UFO documentary
[00:56:33.440] >> docu There's a few documentaries. There
[00:56:35.119] was a landing of a craft at a at a
[00:56:37.760] school with about you know I think South
[00:56:39.280] Africa 90 kids 60 90 kids South Africa
[00:56:41.760] >> in the 90s.
[00:56:42.640] >> Yeah. And um the thing is
[00:56:44.074] [clears throat] I heard about the story
[00:56:45.119] and famously John Mack from Harvard who
[00:56:47.200] is head of psych psychology psychiatry
[00:56:49.440] whatever he went out there with the BBC
[00:56:52.559] and they did interviews with the kids
[00:56:55.520] and I see these little faces of these
[00:56:57.760] cute little kids a very diverse school
[00:57:00.079] white kids black kids the whole thing.
[00:57:01.599] It wasn't just like, you know, um it was
[00:57:04.559] every kind of person including teachers.
[00:57:08.880] Now, the teachers at first said, "We
[00:57:10.880] didn't see him. Nothing to see here."
[00:57:12.319] Move on. Imagine a a school and the BBC
[00:57:15.200] comes with John [ __ ] Matt from
[00:57:17.520] Harvard. You're like,
[00:57:19.359] >> "Whoa."
[00:57:20.559] >> But here's what happened. I see these
[00:57:22.720] faces of these kids and kids tell it
[00:57:24.720] like they saw it. Like when you're in
[00:57:26.880] that setting with a with an authority
[00:57:28.559] figure asking you, you don't coordinate
[00:57:30.720] amongst 90 60 90 kids
[00:57:33.040] >> the same narrative. You don't draw the
[00:57:34.640] same picture. You don't you just don't
[00:57:36.319] do that.
[00:57:37.359] >> And there's John Mack and I'm I'm a kid
[00:57:39.920] and I'm watching these kids.
[00:57:42.559] >> Flash forward.
[00:57:44.960] Lisel I she she meets me in um Oregon.
[00:57:49.200] Sma, they were the closest to the
[00:57:52.720] aliens. They call them aliens. They the
[00:57:55.280] grays. They had almondshaped eyes,
[00:57:59.440] >> big heads. And here's what people don't
[00:58:01.520] know. When they were standing in front
[00:58:04.160] of this being,
[00:58:06.799] >> um,
[00:58:09.359] SMA or I think it was Lisel said to me,
[00:58:13.280] in my mind was being projected the
[00:58:16.720] destruction of Earth.
[00:58:18.079] >> Hurry up.
[00:58:19.440] >> And she said, the environment.
[00:58:21.920] And she says, "I got the message," and a
[00:58:24.559] lot of the kids did, that we're going to
[00:58:26.240] hurt ourselves
[00:58:28.000] and that we should protect Earth cuz
[00:58:30.720] it's special.
[00:58:32.799] And then she said she had to like break
[00:58:35.359] out of that, Lisa and Salma. Break out
[00:58:38.000] of that, Lisa said. And all of a sudden,
[00:58:39.839] it just all went back. Like the sound
[00:58:41.440] was back, everything was back and they
[00:58:44.000] left, ran away or you know, kids.
[00:58:47.599] The thing is I asked her I said one
[00:58:54.720] what what did they want you to do and
[00:58:56.480] are you doing it and she goes and she
[00:58:58.160] looks at me cuz the first time she had
[00:59:00.319] publicly spoken
[00:59:03.040] and she goes I think I'm doing it right
[00:59:05.359] now.
[00:59:05.920] >> Oh wow.
[00:59:06.559] >> I'm getting [laughter] goosebumps. I
[00:59:07.760] think I'm doing it right now to tell
[00:59:09.920] people, but my brain I have to be on
[00:59:13.040] guard all the time because in my life
[00:59:14.880] I'm thinking in my head,
[00:59:17.839] are they lying to her?
[00:59:20.319] >> Right. So, so, so I I wonder Messengers
[00:59:23.119] of Deception is an amazing book by
[00:59:25.119] Jacques Valet.
[00:59:26.000] >> Oh, I know Jacqu Valet. I don't know him
[00:59:27.680] person, but shout out to Jacqu Valet. He
[00:59:30.720] is he is a good friend. I love him with
[00:59:33.520] all of my heart and he is a pioneer
[00:59:38.319] of deep thinking on this complex mosaic,
[00:59:43.359] this Rubik's cube that we call the UFO
[00:59:46.240] phenomenon, which is much deeper than
[00:59:48.640] hard physical craft that fly through the
[00:59:50.559] sky. Much deeper. And I can tell you
[00:59:52.160] that because I am the [ __ ] um
[00:59:55.040] repository of crazy. Every single
[00:59:58.000] [ __ ] person on planet, I made myself
[01:00:00.079] accessible. I got an email. I got a
[01:00:01.920] phone number. I will take any call. I
[01:00:04.079] will talk with you. I don't know if you
[01:00:06.640] don't just don't hurt me. Protect me.
[01:00:08.799] I'll listen to you. And I love that. And
[01:00:11.119] I can't answer everything. It's just a
[01:00:13.200] bombardment.
[01:00:14.240] >> Wait, but can I ask you a question? So
[01:00:16.480] that that docu what you're talking about
[01:00:18.400] >> Ariel School.
[01:00:19.200] >> Yeah. Look it up because they actually
[01:00:20.960] have footage of these children being
[01:00:22.559] interviewed by a renowned psychologist
[01:00:26.480] and it's conclusive evidence that like
[01:00:29.119] they all saw the same thing. out of
[01:00:31.280] Harvard Psychology [laughter] with the
[01:00:32.480] BBC. That's nuts.
[01:00:33.760] >> Lisa and Sama shout the [ __ ] out to you.
[01:00:36.079] You are heroes of mine, too.
[01:00:37.440] >> Oh, it's so cool.
[01:00:38.720] >> Aliens. They saw aliens and the aliens
[01:00:40.960] projected things into their heads to
[01:00:43.040] protect the Earth. But I'm a skeptical
[01:00:44.720] person. I don't believe you or an alien.
[01:00:46.720] You have to show me, not tell me. So,
[01:00:48.640] when the aliens say that [ __ ] to them,
[01:00:50.240] I'd be like, "Are you [ __ ] liars?"
[01:00:52.319] >> Yeah, that's true. Okay, but what about
[01:00:54.960] the orbs? What What do you think I'm
[01:00:56.799] seeing? I'm I'm I'm playing just a tip
[01:00:59.440] right now with you because I [laughter]
[01:01:00.319] know you want to talk about orbs.
[01:01:01.920] >> Let's talk about orbs
[01:01:02.799] >> and you want to talk about psionics and
[01:01:04.400] you want to talk about when you see with
[01:01:06.240] your mind and you connect and and
[01:01:08.319] another other people stand by you can't
[01:01:09.920] see them.
[01:01:10.480] >> No, no, they can see them.
[01:01:11.440] >> Okay. But sometimes they can't cuz
[01:01:13.920] sometimes I don't till I look at the
[01:01:16.480] footage.
[01:01:17.520] >> So I got a story for you and I've never
[01:01:19.280] told it.
[01:01:19.920] >> Oh, cool.
[01:01:20.960] >> [ __ ] Here we go. [laughter]
[01:01:23.920] Jesus Christ.
[01:01:25.599] >> My god, I'm going to pee my pants. Okay,
[01:01:27.440] check it out.
[01:01:28.160] >> Go ahead, buddy.
[01:01:30.720] >> Just did.
[01:01:32.079] >> Yeah.
[01:01:32.559] >> Actually, I did that one time in second
[01:01:34.079] grade. Piano teacher was the daughter of
[01:01:36.640] of somebody from the Grateful Dead, and
[01:01:38.319] she told me I couldn't pee in class. I'm
[01:01:40.400] so defiant. This might define me. I'm so
[01:01:42.480] defiant. I go, okay. And I pissed
[01:01:45.359] myself.
[01:01:45.839] >> Don't pay yourself today.
[01:01:46.799] >> No. And then and then what happened was
[01:01:48.160] they had to give me new pants. It took
[01:01:49.440] me out of school. My mom was so mad at
[01:01:51.040] the at the teacher because she didn't
[01:01:53.280] let me go to the bathroom. Second grade.
[01:01:55.119] What the [ __ ] was her name?
[01:01:57.119] >> Um, it was at Franklin school. Anyway,
[01:01:59.680] so I'm not going to pee my pants.
[01:02:00.880] >> Don't pee your pants.
[01:02:01.599] >> That would be a great clip for you,
[01:02:02.640] though.
[01:02:02.960] >> Don't pee your pants.
[01:02:03.760] >> Okay, check it out.
[01:02:04.720] >> Go ahead, buddy.
[01:02:05.200] >> Well, just cuz I'm drinking beer.
[01:02:06.240] >> I know.
[01:02:06.640] >> Okay, I'm going to tell you a story cuz
[01:02:08.480] I thought about it when I saw
[01:02:11.040] >> your podcast where you talked about your
[01:02:12.720] experience. I didn't know you had one.
[01:02:14.240] >> Yeah.
[01:02:14.559] >> You were with Duncan when you had it.
[01:02:16.079] >> No, I've had multiple.
[01:02:17.440] >> You talked with Duncan and told him.
[01:02:18.880] >> Yes.
[01:02:19.440] >> Okay. So, I just saw that
[01:02:20.640] >> that clip. Yeah. And I was like, and I'm
[01:02:23.040] like, I'm [ __ ] going to Austin. And
[01:02:24.400] then boom, your producer hits me and I'm
[01:02:26.160] like, I am free, baby. Let's do this.
[01:02:29.200] So,
[01:02:32.000] >> bear with me because I want you to hear
[01:02:34.480] this story,
[01:02:35.040] >> okay?
[01:02:35.359] >> I've never told it,
[01:02:36.400] >> okay?
[01:02:36.720] >> Not like this.
[01:02:40.079] I saw something in the sky and it looked
[01:02:43.200] like a silver surfer, like from a
[01:02:44.799] cartoon. And naively, and I don't know
[01:02:47.359] what year it is, but everybody can go
[01:02:48.640] look at the video. It's probably one of
[01:02:49.920] the first videos I ever put on YouTube.
[01:02:53.040] And I asked people, "What is this?"
[01:02:55.680] Like, you can see. I'm just asking,
[01:02:56.880] "What is this?" I'm not saying that's a
[01:02:59.680] UFO. I'm like, "What is it?"
[01:03:02.400] Immediately that night, Bill Nye, the
[01:03:04.720] science guy, goes on television and
[01:03:07.359] says, "Oh, you know, they probably
[01:03:09.119] superimposed brine shrimp onto the
[01:03:11.440] film." I go to Google, "What the [ __ ] is
[01:03:12.799] a brine shrimp?" Sea monkey,
[01:03:15.280] [ __ ] Should I put sea monkeys
[01:03:16.799] in the footage? That's not science. I
[01:03:19.119] was like, I was so confused. I thought
[01:03:21.280] he was a science guy. I called the news
[01:03:24.000] station. I go, "No, no, no, no, no, no.
[01:03:26.079] That's my footage and I don't know how
[01:03:28.480] to superimpose dick." And they ignored
[01:03:31.599] me. And I thought, "What the [ __ ] How
[01:03:34.160] does this work?" So, I went deep dive on
[01:03:37.599] MySpace and I started connecting people
[01:03:40.079] on MySpace and just trying to figure out
[01:03:42.400] I think it was MySpace or Facebook or
[01:03:43.599] something. It was like little groups,
[01:03:45.039] you know, and I was like, "Did anybody
[01:03:47.200] else film this?" Famously, TMZ had some
[01:03:50.240] basketball player that filmed it. I
[01:03:52.480] found five other people. So, now I had
[01:03:56.000] six or seven, if you include mine,
[01:03:57.920] angles of observation. So, I thought,
[01:04:01.119] I'm going to [ __ ] figure this out. I
[01:04:04.079] did. Then I got a seventh p piece of
[01:04:07.039] footage
[01:04:08.640] and it was the head GoPro or something
[01:04:12.079] camera
[01:04:13.680] on the Red Bull sky diver with aridium
[01:04:16.960] flares on his ankles that was going like
[01:04:19.280] the Silver Surfer over Santa Monica. And
[01:04:21.359] I go, "Yes, I solved a UFO case." I
[01:04:24.319] emailed all these UFO groups like, "I
[01:04:26.400] solved the case, guys. I solved the
[01:04:27.680] case." Nobody wanted to take it cuz UFO
[01:04:31.039] people want UFOs. They don't want solved
[01:04:33.760] cases, right? That's boring.
[01:04:36.720] >> So I was like, what is this all about?
[01:04:39.280] I've been interested since a kid and and
[01:04:41.280] nobody like I solved a case. So that was
[01:04:44.640] kind of my first UFO unidentified
[01:04:47.440] sighting was something I solved.
[01:04:50.960] I got a YouTube message that says, "Meet
[01:04:55.760] me at this time at this place at this
[01:04:58.640] parking lot on the rooftop." Or no, he
[01:05:01.119] said somewhere else. this time this
[01:05:03.440] place and I'll show you. All you got to
[01:05:06.000] do is be grateful and there's a a
[01:05:08.319] practice you can do and you'll see him.
[01:05:12.799] And I turn to my girlfriend who is now
[01:05:15.200] my wife, right? And I go, "This [ __ ]
[01:05:19.359] crazy guy wants me to meet him in Santa
[01:05:21.839] Monica." And I I don't nobody knows me.
[01:05:24.559] I don't know anybody. I was doing art. I
[01:05:26.400] was an artist at the time after martial
[01:05:28.079] athletics. I was an artist accidentally.
[01:05:31.119] And she goes, "You know you're going to
[01:05:32.799] go." Oh [ __ ] So I immediately wrote him
[01:05:37.440] back and said, "Oh, meet you. Give me
[01:05:40.240] your number." Gave me his number.
[01:05:42.319] >> I changed the location and time on him
[01:05:46.160] five times
[01:05:48.400] >> just so I wasn't getting fooled. Like he
[01:05:50.240] knew there was a balloon that was going
[01:05:51.520] to go weather balloon or something like
[01:05:52.799] that. So I'm already thinking
[01:05:54.559] >> like defensively, right? Cuz I want to
[01:05:56.720] know the truth.
[01:05:58.400] Finally, we get up to I took him in my
[01:06:01.119] car and delayed. Delayed.
[01:06:03.200] >> He has all these cameras. He's a
[01:06:05.039] homeless guy, by the way.
[01:06:06.559] >> He had a cell phone. Number one thing
[01:06:08.880] they all do.
[01:06:09.440] >> You got to. But back then, this was back
[01:06:11.200] then. This is like probably the first
[01:06:13.119] iPhone where you can look at the video
[01:06:14.319] to see the year, but it was like
[01:06:15.839] >> I was shocked. I was like, the [ __ ]
[01:06:18.880] >> Um, but like he was in a he was in a
[01:06:20.960] home at that point, right? But he like a
[01:06:24.160] halfway house kind of thing. But real
[01:06:26.400] homeless guy. love him with all of my
[01:06:28.000] heart, but he's got like um you know,
[01:06:30.000] he's had a rough life. So, you got a guy
[01:06:32.319] who's had a rough life, who's homeless,
[01:06:34.400] who's going to show UFOs, and has spent
[01:06:36.240] whatever money he got on this [ __ ]
[01:06:38.160] camera and tripod. So, I was filming
[01:06:41.359] him. I'm literally filming him. I have
[01:06:43.760] this footage. It's like I Michael didn't
[01:06:45.680] put it in the movie. I'm filming the guy
[01:06:47.839] and he's doing some summoning thing.
[01:06:50.240] First time I ever heard about this. So,
[01:06:51.599] imagine this is I'm going to get the
[01:06:53.119] year wrong. whatever year it was, it was
[01:06:56.319] really early on. Look at the video.
[01:07:00.160] And all of a sudden, he goes there.
[01:07:01.599] There. And you see me all skeptic like,
[01:07:03.920] "Okay, okay, buddy." And I come into
[01:07:06.480] frame. I'll give you this footage for
[01:07:09.119] your show. It's never been aired, I
[01:07:10.559] don't think.
[01:07:10.880] >> Oh, thank you.
[01:07:11.760] >> It's a cool little clip, but I'm giving
[01:07:13.520] you context so we could air it, right?
[01:07:15.599] So, what happens is I'm like, "Okay,
[01:07:17.440] buddy." You can see on my face I'm like
[01:07:19.839] an artist wearing a fedora and [ __ ] you
[01:07:21.839] know? I'm like, "Okay, buddy." I go next
[01:07:23.440] to him. My eyes at that time are a
[01:07:25.760] little bit better. I was like looking, I
[01:07:27.680] can't see anything, but I'm looking
[01:07:28.799] right where he's looking. He's pointing
[01:07:30.559] and he's going like, "Yahweh, Yahweh."
[01:07:32.319] He had a religious belief, right?
[01:07:34.319] >> And which which I didn't.
[01:07:36.480] >> Holy [ __ ]
[01:07:39.119] >> I saw something that day that previously
[01:07:43.359] I had never seen before. And they were
[01:07:46.559] fast movers.
[01:07:47.599] >> Oh.
[01:07:48.000] >> They were orbs.
[01:07:49.440] >> Yeah. So I don't catch them on the film.
[01:07:54.000] I capture accidentally cuz I was filming
[01:07:56.799] him my reaction which is stunned.
[01:08:01.280] >> Yeah.
[01:08:01.599] >> So like you that was the first time I'd
[01:08:04.240] ever seen anything I couldn't explain. I
[01:08:06.720] could not explain this. That started
[01:08:08.640] this thing for for a couple years or a
[01:08:10.240] few years quietly. I'd meet him at the
[01:08:14.240] VA whatever. I have dozens and dozens of
[01:08:18.560] times when he said, "I'm going to summon
[01:08:22.640] and you're going to see something in the
[01:08:24.319] [ __ ] sky."
[01:08:25.359] >> Yeah.
[01:08:25.839] >> And I have a Canon 5D Mark I.
[01:08:28.960] >> Yeah.
[01:08:29.279] >> It's like a [ __ ] shitty camera. I was
[01:08:31.600] good at the time. So, you don't like
[01:08:33.120] It's not like high definition zoom in
[01:08:34.640] like you got now.
[01:08:36.000] >> But he was [ __ ] right. And it never
[01:08:38.480] took more than 3 minutes for something
[01:08:41.120] to show up. So, I started telling my
[01:08:43.839] super educated friend from Harvard that
[01:08:46.239] I've known since 3 years old named
[01:08:47.920] Michael Shane Side, this writer who's
[01:08:50.799] like, you know, my friend has known me
[01:08:53.440] forever and, you know, will call
[01:08:55.040] [ __ ] on me. And he just laughed his
[01:08:56.960] ass off at me. He's like, you [ __ ]
[01:08:58.400] following a homeless guy [ __ ] looking
[01:09:00.239] at UFOs, you [ __ ] cook. You know,
[01:09:02.400] that was his attitude.
[01:09:03.679] >> Yeah.
[01:09:04.159] >> Let me tell you how this ends.
[01:09:08.319] So, I kept showing footage to my
[01:09:10.719] friends. I'm like, "Look, dude, there's
[01:09:11.839] something there, man. I I don't know
[01:09:13.040] what it is. Don't really [ __ ] care."
[01:09:14.480] But at the same time, it's [ __ ]
[01:09:15.520] weird, right? They mocked me. And
[01:09:18.239] Aimakas Pagas, aka Alpha, my Greek
[01:09:21.040] friends. These guys are really educated.
[01:09:22.640] They studied things like classics and,
[01:09:24.319] you know, they're smarty pants, right?
[01:09:25.920] Way smarter than me. Not street smart,
[01:09:27.600] but smarter than me otherwise.
[01:09:30.159] And
[01:09:32.159] one day I'm filming with John Lear and
[01:09:35.359] my like now my phone is on silent.
[01:09:38.400] I had this compulsion while I'm filming,
[01:09:40.880] which I also have on camera, and I'm
[01:09:43.839] like, "John, hold on a second." In the
[01:09:46.080] middle of filming, I just had this
[01:09:47.440] feeling and I picked up my phone and
[01:09:49.120] it's Mikey and I have it recorded.
[01:09:53.199] I open it up. I go, "Hold on, John.
[01:09:55.440] Mikey, what's up, man?" And he goes,
[01:09:57.440] "Um, um, so you know that thing you told
[01:10:01.120] me about?" [laughter] He goes, "I went
[01:10:02.719] outside, put myself in a state of
[01:10:04.480] gratitude and prayer, and he goes, and I
[01:10:06.800] am seeing orbs in the sky, and then I
[01:10:10.560] hear in the background these girls walk
[01:10:12.560] by. What? What is that?" They say to
[01:10:14.560] him, "What is that?" He goes, "I I I
[01:10:16.800] don't know. I'm on the friend with my uh
[01:10:19.440] I'm on the phone with my friend Jeremy.
[01:10:21.120] I I I don't know." And I go, "Mikey,
[01:10:23.360] John Lear is here. You know John Leer,
[01:10:25.840] the UFO nut you were talking about?" Um,
[01:10:28.560] and John goes, "Mikey,
[01:10:31.120] tell them to come visit John Leer in Las
[01:10:33.840] Vegas, Nevada. [laughter] They know
[01:10:35.600] where I live." [ __ ] stands up
[01:10:38.880] and his legs are all black and [ __ ] up
[01:10:40.960] from all his illness. I see him hobble
[01:10:42.960] to the door, open the door, all filming,
[01:10:45.600] all filming. Look up out the sky,
[01:10:50.159] come back in, sit down, and go,
[01:10:52.719] >> "Mikey, it's a no-show. Uh, they didn't
[01:10:55.280] come here, but that's okay. But the
[01:10:56.880] thanks for letting us know. And I sit
[01:10:58.960] there thinking I have what the [ __ ]
[01:11:01.280] >> fallen down the rabbit [laughter] hole
[01:11:03.280] and there's [ __ ] no hope. And so all
[01:11:06.000] of that happened. That was my first
[01:11:07.520] experience to the possibility that
[01:11:09.920] consciousness is related to your ability
[01:11:13.679] to perceive.
[01:11:15.679] And I want to say that very
[01:11:16.800] specifically, your ability to perceive
[01:11:19.840] >> what is always there. John Leair used to
[01:11:21.440] say, "Jeremy,
[01:11:23.280] >> if your eyes could see, the sky would be
[01:11:27.440] black from how many UFOs are up above
[01:11:30.320] you." And I was like, "Dude, you [ __ ]
[01:11:31.920] crazy, right?" So, so that's the first
[01:11:34.080] time I do a good John Leer impression.
[01:11:36.239] Um, first time that I thought, a John
[01:11:39.520] Leer believes what he's telling me. He
[01:11:43.040] got up in pain to go look out cuz he
[01:11:45.440] thought Mikey was going to send the UFOs
[01:11:47.120] to him.
[01:11:47.440] >> Yeah. And Mikey said it. said, "Go to
[01:11:49.280] see John Lair in Las Vegas, Nevada." I
[01:11:51.120] will give you that footage, too. It's
[01:11:52.400] crazy little clip, but all it shows is
[01:11:55.280] that John Lair believed it.
[01:11:58.159] I I was not a believer in that, but I've
[01:12:01.120] seen that happen. There is a connection
[01:12:04.960] between human consciousness
[01:12:07.440] and what we call UFOs. Always has been,
[01:12:11.199] always been reported. But don't get
[01:12:13.600] trapped. And let me explain that. I
[01:12:15.679] think it's really important. That is a
[01:12:18.000] vulnerability.
[01:12:19.840] At some point, if you have an
[01:12:21.840] extraordinary experience, the fish got
[01:12:24.000] to get bigger.
[01:12:25.760] Your mind has to make it bigger.
[01:12:28.800] If you want something bigger, tell them
[01:12:30.239] to come closer. That's what always
[01:12:31.360] bothers me. The summoner thing. Tell
[01:12:32.880] them to come closer.
[01:12:34.880] If you have this psychic connection and
[01:12:37.679] they want to real, tell them to come
[01:12:41.360] closer so you can like talk with them.
[01:12:44.159] That's what I would do. But I'm kind of
[01:12:46.080] like kryptonite to the unexplained
[01:12:47.840] because I have to be as a journalist,
[01:12:50.000] >> right? So like I'm always the guy inside
[01:12:52.640] going to get the night vision goggles
[01:12:54.400] for my friends that are out in the
[01:12:55.840] desert. Me in Pioneer Town, I'm like,
[01:12:57.440] "I'm going to give you the coolest thing
[01:12:58.640] you see. 100,000 times more stars. Hold
[01:13:00.640] on. I'll be right back." I go in, they
[01:13:01.920] all start screaming.
[01:13:04.800] Close friends of mine, scientists who
[01:13:07.120] didn't believe [ __ ] saw stuff. By the
[01:13:10.480] time I get out with the night vision,
[01:13:12.560] you missed it, [ __ ] That was
[01:13:14.640] always me. That was always me. So,
[01:13:16.159] you're lucky. You're fortunate.
[01:13:18.080] Actually, luck is like opportunity and
[01:13:20.880] your ability to grasp that opportunity.
[01:13:24.480] But you're lucky when you're born.
[01:13:27.120] You're fortunate.
[01:13:29.120] There's a difference in that word.
[01:13:32.000] Look it up. The the the point being that
[01:13:36.800] you saw something
[01:13:40.400] that expanded
[01:13:43.679] your concept of what it means to be
[01:13:47.120] human.
[01:13:48.800] That is fortunate
[01:13:50.719] because there is a larger world out
[01:13:53.040] there. The ancient Greeks used to think
[01:13:55.440] that stars were pecking marks from
[01:13:59.360] >> um what are they called? Not tweety
[01:14:01.920] birds, hummingbirds. They used to
[01:14:03.360] believe hummingbirds made the stars by
[01:14:05.600] pecking the firmament. But now the world
[01:14:08.080] is so much bigger. We realize there's
[01:14:09.760] galaxies and [ __ ] So you experience
[01:14:12.880] that. Don't ever let that leave you.
[01:14:15.199] There's something bigger. There's
[01:14:16.320] something greater, right?
[01:14:18.000] >> Definitely.
[01:14:18.800] >> But you're being played.
[01:14:20.719] >> Why?
[01:14:21.679] >> By our government.
[01:14:22.960] >> You think so?
[01:14:23.760] >> I know. So
[01:14:24.560] >> Okay, then tell me how I'm being played.
[01:14:27.040] The psyionics movement is a
[01:14:29.600] government-controlled movement.
[01:14:32.239] I' I've I've really never talked about
[01:14:34.000] this publicly, but I know that to be
[01:14:36.560] true. Not that these guys didn't have
[01:14:38.800] experiences, not that there isn't a
[01:14:40.880] connection
[01:14:42.400] to consciousness in UAP, but I told you
[01:14:45.360] at the beginning
[01:14:46.880] >> that they're trying to shape the
[01:14:48.400] emerging UAP narrative. That is a quote
[01:14:50.800] from the CIA document.
[01:14:52.960] The cyanx movement as it's presented to
[01:14:55.440] you by intelligence agents
[01:14:59.280] is to shape the narrative. It's not that
[01:15:01.760] it's untrue. All of it. Some of it is
[01:15:04.560] untrue. And I think if I had those guys
[01:15:06.400] sitting with me right here, they'd
[01:15:07.760] they'd admit they'd want to admit it cuz
[01:15:10.239] they're patriots and they're probably
[01:15:11.679] good humans.
[01:15:14.560] So keep your mind open.
[01:15:16.320] >> Yes.
[01:15:17.120] >> Don't let the marbles spill out.
[01:15:18.719] >> But hold on. But then how are they how
[01:15:21.280] is it that if I go outside anywhere in
[01:15:24.400] the world and I literally just look up
[01:15:27.440] and I like what what your crazy homeless
[01:15:29.920] friend was saying you look up in
[01:15:31.920] gratitude I do have to be on a certain
[01:15:33.520] emotional whatever frequency
[01:15:36.480] >> you've noticed that.
[01:15:37.760] >> Yeah.
[01:15:38.480] >> Explain that. [laughter]
[01:15:40.560] >> Okay. See here's the difference. Here's
[01:15:42.640] what I think that Okay. I'm so glad you
[01:15:45.040] said that. I think this is where worlds
[01:15:47.920] collide. This is where we need to have
[01:15:49.760] the orb discussion meets like the
[01:15:52.000] journalist covering the UAP. Yeah,
[01:15:55.520] >> there is a component to this stuff that
[01:15:58.239] is spiritual that isn't
[01:16:01.520] just I haven't seen spacecraft. I can't
[01:16:03.520] tell you that I've seen discs or tic
[01:16:05.280] tacs or any of that stuff.
[01:16:08.880] But like uh what if I go out and if I
[01:16:13.120] have a like what your friend was saying
[01:16:15.199] a feeling of gratitude
[01:16:17.520] >> of a meditative state if I'm not
[01:16:20.000] thinking about my worldly [ __ ] my
[01:16:22.080] problems I have to be in the right mind
[01:16:24.800] space
[01:16:25.760] >> they show up
[01:16:27.120] >> okay [laughter]
[01:16:28.560] >> what don't say it to me like that how
[01:16:31.440] how the government know that Christina P
[01:16:34.480] the comedian in Austin Texas is thinking
[01:16:37.040] positive thoughts
[01:16:37.920] >> no it's Our government putting craft in
[01:16:40.080] the air.
[01:16:40.560] >> Oh,
[01:16:40.880] >> they can't control that.
[01:16:42.320] >> Oh,
[01:16:43.120] >> no. I'm sorry. We had a
[01:16:43.920] miscommunication.
[01:16:44.640] >> Yeah. So, how are they con what's the
[01:16:46.239] what's the rub?
[01:16:48.080] >> The the rub is that there is a
[01:16:50.400] connection. It appears as a journalist
[01:16:52.880] there is a connection. It appears I
[01:16:54.640] can't deny it no matter how allergic I
[01:16:56.159] am to it to consciousness and what we
[01:16:59.440] call UFOs. What you're experiencing
[01:17:01.920] >> to be able to perceive them
[01:17:04.560] perception.
[01:17:05.280] >> Your words, not mine.
[01:17:06.960] >> Right. I believe that to be correct. I
[01:17:09.600] can't prove it. I believe it to be.
[01:17:10.719] >> Yeah, I do too.
[01:17:11.520] >> Okay. So, our government is hyper aware
[01:17:16.159] of the connective tissue between
[01:17:18.719] consciousness
[01:17:20.480] >> and the perceived world
[01:17:22.960] equations
[01:17:25.199] >> are classified.
[01:17:27.360] So,
[01:17:29.040] what you're seeing is the phenomenon and
[01:17:31.120] that's what we call it now, right? It's
[01:17:33.280] popular because it's much bigger than
[01:17:35.760] the spaceships as we call them or the
[01:17:38.239] craft UFOs.
[01:17:40.560] >> I believe
[01:17:43.679] I'm I'm pretty damn sure you take that
[01:17:45.679] for whatever bearded tattooed [ __ ]
[01:17:48.159] accidental journalist. Take that for
[01:17:49.520] whatever you think.
[01:17:53.280] So what you're seeing is the phenomenon.
[01:17:56.239] Our government can't hide that from you,
[01:17:57.920] can they? Because it's you. It's you out
[01:18:00.080] there. If that's real and it's true. And
[01:18:01.920] look, I'll be like your best worst
[01:18:03.280] friend or your worst best friend because
[01:18:05.840] you'll send me a video and you'll say,
[01:18:08.719] "I just summoned these orbs and you'll
[01:18:11.120] send it to me and I'll geospace location
[01:18:14.400] tag all that shit." And I will sometimes
[01:18:17.600] find that you have seen a distant
[01:18:20.080] airplane.
[01:18:20.800] >> Oh, for sure.
[01:18:22.080] >> Starlink.
[01:18:23.120] >> For sure. That's Yes. But sometimes
[01:18:25.679] there'll be nothing
[01:18:27.760] trackable on any tracker and there will
[01:18:30.640] be other characteristics. As an example,
[01:18:33.520] which I've seen myself,
[01:18:36.400] instantaneous acceler I've seen it in
[01:18:38.159] person. Instantaneous acceleration.
[01:18:42.640] We don't have anything that can do that.
[01:18:46.239] >> So when you send me a video, I will
[01:18:48.800] eliminate you. Just text me the video.
[01:18:51.440] I'll eliminate all the knowns and if we
[01:18:55.199] have an unknown
[01:18:57.360] then you saw a UFO
[01:19:00.000] >> unidentified [ __ ] object. Okay.
[01:19:05.679] Brass tax.
[01:19:08.320] Our government knows the jig is up.
[01:19:12.560] They were forced into that position.
[01:19:15.440] Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe there's like some
[01:19:18.640] altruistic thing with people in
[01:19:20.000] government. They're like ready to tell
[01:19:21.280] people, right?
[01:19:22.000] >> Yeah. It's not usually the case. Humans
[01:19:24.000] are
[01:19:24.560] >> So, so what you're seeing by how you're
[01:19:27.120] describing it to me is the real UFO
[01:19:30.400] phenomenon.
[01:19:31.440] >> Yeah.
[01:19:31.760] >> It's not like government craft they're
[01:19:33.360] putting up.
[01:19:34.000] >> Thank you. Finally. It's not like this
[01:19:35.920] reverse. It's not like that.
[01:19:37.600] >> They're [ __ ] It's it's so
[01:19:39.040] discombobulated.
[01:19:40.159] >> Yeah.
[01:19:40.480] >> The the the whole orchestration of the
[01:19:42.960] intelligence agencies.
[01:19:44.640] >> There's no way. But but here's what I'm
[01:19:46.159] saying, Jeremy Corbel, is that there is
[01:19:49.280] that there are the weirdos of the world
[01:19:51.360] like me, the artists, the creatives
[01:19:53.840] >> that can tap into this consciousness
[01:19:56.239] that allows us to see it.
[01:19:58.000] >> Anybody can.
[01:19:58.880] >> Anybody can.
[01:19:59.679] >> But but but but creative people, I've
[01:20:01.760] heard this a lot, like musicians,
[01:20:03.360] creative people, they tend to be seekers
[01:20:06.560] of like something. So you hear about it
[01:20:09.199] more from them. But I'll tell you
[01:20:10.640] factually, if I go through um 15 years
[01:20:14.080] of recorded phone calls,
[01:20:15.520] >> of course, look, I've got my my fans
[01:20:17.440] have emailed me. I've seen the orbs.
[01:20:19.600] I've seen the orbs.
[01:20:20.640] >> Engineers call me from nuclear programs.
[01:20:23.840] They did never believed in UFOs. It was
[01:20:25.920] like a car crash. So, you don't need to
[01:20:28.800] be there summoning.
[01:20:30.880] For for some people, it's like a car
[01:20:33.199] crash. It just happens to them and it
[01:20:35.360] injures them
[01:20:36.480] >> cuz they see something their mind can
[01:20:38.880] never erase.
[01:20:40.080] >> Oh, I see what you're saying. So, if you
[01:20:41.280] see it before you're kind of ready to
[01:20:42.800] see it, maybe it'll break you. Is that
[01:20:44.719] >> It's just people not trying is what I'm
[01:20:46.640] saying. So, there's there's people that
[01:20:48.159] don't try. So, you want a concrete
[01:20:50.480] example.
[01:20:51.679] >> What of trying?
[01:20:52.800] >> Of people not trying and seeing one.
[01:20:54.960] >> Sure.
[01:20:55.440] >> Okay. I don't know where you want to go,
[01:20:56.560] but here.
[01:20:56.880] >> No, no, no. I I want to talk about Okay.
[01:20:59.840] So, so hold on. Let's back it up. So,
[01:21:01.679] wherever you want to go.
[01:21:02.640] >> Okay. So you think what I am seeing are
[01:21:05.199] actual aliens? Is that what we're
[01:21:08.320] saying? I
[01:21:08.800] >> I didn't say that. What
[01:21:10.239] >> UAP phenomenon?
[01:21:11.679] >> Yeah, you're seeing UAP. You're seeing
[01:21:13.679] the real phenomenon, whatever that is,
[01:21:15.760] the phenomenon which we call UFOs,
[01:21:18.560] >> right?
[01:21:18.960] >> From from from your account to me. I
[01:21:22.080] assess that you are not mistaking
[01:21:25.360] planes. Mm-m.
[01:21:26.880] >> Whenever [clears throat] you feel
[01:21:27.760] grateful, you you know, look at the sky
[01:21:29.840] when you're when you're feeling like
[01:21:31.040] [ __ ] [ __ ] And it won't be it won't
[01:21:33.199] be there. Right. So, you're
[01:21:34.719] >> and I have witnesses, my husband, my
[01:21:36.640] children. Yeah.
[01:21:37.679] >> Anybody comes over to my [ __ ] house,
[01:21:39.280] I'm like, "Let's go outside and look at
[01:21:40.480] the orbs." Okay. Holy [ __ ] Like, I've
[01:21:43.840] invited people over and they're they
[01:21:45.600] they [ __ ] their [ __ ] pants. It's
[01:21:47.440] real.
[01:21:48.159] >> I
[01:21:48.640] >> I don't summon them, by the way. And I I
[01:21:50.080] don't feel like I don't I don't That's a
[01:21:51.920] weird word.
[01:21:52.880] >> So, I'm so I'm so glad I like that idea.
[01:21:55.199] Break down that. Yeah.
[01:21:56.719] >> Okay. You don't summon [ __ ]
[01:21:59.120] >> No.
[01:21:59.600] >> That [ __ ] is there all the time.
[01:22:01.040] >> I think so, too.
[01:22:01.840] >> Cuz what happens, people start thinking
[01:22:03.199] they're a master summoner and then they
[01:22:05.360] and I've been with them and they get so
[01:22:07.199] depressed that when I'm there that they
[01:22:09.360] don't see them that they say, "Well, it
[01:22:11.040] was, you know, your investigative mind.
[01:22:13.440] It stopped them from coming." [ __ ]
[01:22:15.199] I've been with a lot of people that saw
[01:22:16.560] them.
[01:22:17.440] >> They think they're summoning them. They
[01:22:19.679] are not. All they're doing is removing
[01:22:22.320] the [ __ ] blinders off of their eyes
[01:22:24.639] and they are [ __ ] always there.
[01:22:26.400] >> That's what it is.
[01:22:27.280] >> We call them the watchers,
[01:22:29.520] you know, in some in intelligent
[01:22:31.679] circles. I heard that
[01:22:33.280] >> they're always there.
[01:22:34.560] >> They're always there.
[01:22:35.679] >> However,
[01:22:37.360] they do interact. And let me give you
[01:22:39.920] concrete proof
[01:22:41.840] to to me, not to you. This will be a
[01:22:43.760] story to you. Um, I was so skeptical
[01:22:48.000] that I was like with a bunch of people
[01:22:49.840] like tell them to do [ __ ] then. Tell him
[01:22:51.920] to do something.
[01:22:52.719] >> Yeah.
[01:22:53.199] >> And they're like, "Flash." [ __ ]
[01:22:55.199] flashed. I'm like, "That was pretty
[01:22:57.040] cool." I'm like, "Tell it to move left."
[01:22:59.120] [ __ ] move left. Just asked it.
[01:23:02.159] Will you please like um I said, "Tell it
[01:23:05.120] to circle around the other one."
[01:23:08.400] [ __ ] circle around the other one. So,
[01:23:09.760] I'm sitting here [ __ ] my pants, not
[01:23:11.679] just pissing it. And I'm like trying to
[01:23:13.760] keep cool looking.
[01:23:14.800] >> Yeah.
[01:23:15.199] >> And I'm like I said out loud and and be
[01:23:18.239] careful what you say out loud. I've
[01:23:19.360] learned that in my life. Three three
[01:23:20.639] times I said something or two times
[01:23:22.560] >> for sure I said something out loud and
[01:23:24.400] life was like oh we're participatory in
[01:23:26.719] this thing we call reality.
[01:23:28.320] >> Check this out [ __ ]
[01:23:29.600] >> Yeah.
[01:23:29.920] >> And it was like like that's where I got
[01:23:32.800] sick and went went into that's where
[01:23:35.120] that's where my whole life changed. I
[01:23:37.360] asked the world, "Do you have anything
[01:23:39.360] other for me than the martial athletics
[01:23:42.159] and being a sensei and teaching that and
[01:23:44.639] devoting my life to it?" And it [ __ ]
[01:23:47.520] answered me.
[01:23:48.159] >> Yeah, I know. It's [ __ ] up.
[01:23:49.600] >> I said out loud. It's [ __ ] up. I said
[01:23:51.520] out loud, we're being too serious for
[01:23:52.880] your podcast. I said out loud,
[01:23:55.360] "I will never doubt again
[01:23:58.719] if you perform this exact maneuver." And
[01:24:01.040] I said it. the Harvard guys there, Mikey
[01:24:03.840] and Alfa, the guy Aimakis Pagas and
[01:24:07.199] [ __ ]
[01:24:09.040] it the the things we were seeing in the
[01:24:12.080] sky did it.
[01:24:13.760] >> So
[01:24:14.480] >> so I was like I but I still doubt.
[01:24:18.719] >> Yeah.
[01:24:19.040] >> You know I'll never doubt again. I
[01:24:20.480] didn't keep my promise.
[01:24:21.760] >> But that's the se so there there is and
[01:24:23.920] there lies the difference of
[01:24:25.600] consciousness. I think
[01:24:27.440] >> you nailed it with saying you don't
[01:24:28.719] summon. You're right. No.
[01:24:30.320] >> Tell all the summoners they don't
[01:24:31.760] [ __ ] summon [ __ ] They get these egos
[01:24:34.080] and they start religions based on it.
[01:24:36.320] All they had was an experience of the
[01:24:38.480] natural world and the fish gets bigger.
[01:24:41.120] You can't summon [ __ ] You can't.
[01:24:44.000] >> They're there.
[01:24:44.960] >> They're there.
[01:24:45.760] >> If this is true
[01:24:46.639] >> and I think there is something to uh you
[01:24:50.320] being open like you said
[01:24:52.560] >> fact
[01:24:53.199] >> being open being not being like [ __ ]
[01:24:56.400] like you can't go into just be open to
[01:24:58.560] Just be open, curious,
[01:25:01.679] um,
[01:25:03.360] and grateful.
[01:25:04.880] >> Yeah. What does that word mean? So like,
[01:25:07.360] so I I I fixate on words cuz I think
[01:25:09.760] they're weapons, right? So a state of be
[01:25:12.639] grateful. Like sure, like we're
[01:25:15.760] grateful. Like we're alive. You're
[01:25:17.679] grateful. We can smoke a cigarette
[01:25:19.520] because it [ __ ] is amazing. I can
[01:25:21.679] have a beer. I can hug my wife. I can
[01:25:24.080] sleep, you know, and get good rest. Like
[01:25:29.360] I think all you have to do is be open.
[01:25:34.080] >> Yeah. Yeah.
[01:25:36.000] >> People do all these things like there's
[01:25:37.760] protocols to summon
[01:25:39.520] >> all [ __ ] cuz I've seen different
[01:25:40.960] protocols all work. And I've also seen a
[01:25:43.440] lot of people get so drunk on having
[01:25:46.960] seen it that they literally think
[01:25:50.000] they're prophets.
[01:25:51.120] >> Oh yeah.
[01:25:52.000] >> And then and then every plane, every
[01:25:54.080] satellite
[01:25:54.880] >> Yeah. becomes [ __ ] hell.
[01:25:57.280] >> See, that's what I'm saying. So, I also
[01:25:58.800] think there's something to
[01:26:02.080] who you are as a human if you're humble
[01:26:05.199] or if you're like you have an ego about
[01:26:08.239] it and you you think you're a prophet
[01:26:10.239] like they're not going to
[01:26:12.159] >> No. No. I I don't think they give a
[01:26:13.840] [ __ ]
[01:26:14.639] >> No, I I I think
[01:26:15.520] >> I think they do, Jeremy. I think that
[01:26:17.360] they won't.
[01:26:17.760] >> No, cuz people with huge egos still get
[01:26:20.080] real captures of summoning.
[01:26:22.000] >> So, I I don't think egos are bad. I I
[01:26:24.639] don't think having a large ego is bad.
[01:26:27.120] If you're a large person, don't be a
[01:26:29.199] douchebag. Don't be a dick. Dick. One
[01:26:31.760] sense. One of my jiu-jitsu teachers once
[01:26:34.480] told me when I was a a kid, he said, um,
[01:26:37.520] I mean, he was like a [ __ ]
[01:26:41.040] >> gnarly dude. I mean, like building a
[01:26:43.679] [ __ ] black power army. Like, the dude
[01:26:46.000] was gnarly. And I [ __ ] got my knee
[01:26:48.639] snapped. And, you know, I got the [ __ ]
[01:26:50.560] beat out of me and he bit through my
[01:26:52.080] thumb down to the bone. He was like a
[01:26:53.920] gnarly guy, but he did say something
[01:26:55.440] really wise. Taught me a lot what not to
[01:26:57.760] do, but also taught me what to do. And
[01:26:59.600] he said to me, he says,
[01:27:02.719] >> "When you
[01:27:05.679] diminish your power,
[01:27:08.080] >> yeah,
[01:27:09.199] >> to someone else to make them
[01:27:10.639] comfortable,
[01:27:11.760] >> you're doing them a disservice." And I'm
[01:27:13.760] like, "What do you mean?"
[01:27:15.199] >> And he says, "Because they're
[01:27:16.960] uncomfortable because they're upset or
[01:27:19.440] whatever the [ __ ] it is. um then then
[01:27:22.320] you're not living by example. So he's
[01:27:24.480] not saying go be an egoomaniac. What
[01:27:26.560] he's saying is don't he goes you're not
[01:27:29.440] you're not bragging, you're confessing.
[01:27:32.239] He says just be yourself.
[01:27:34.719] >> But fully yourself. The the impression
[01:27:37.280] that I get is you have to be fully
[01:27:39.199] yourself by allowing other people to do
[01:27:41.760] their thing. You do your thing. You're
[01:27:44.480] just a clear vessel. You're a clear
[01:27:46.480] line.
[01:27:46.880] >> So you talking about when you're
[01:27:47.760] summoning or in life?
[01:27:48.800] >> Don't say summoning. When I [laughter]
[01:27:50.239] >> Sorry, sorry. No, you're right. You're
[01:27:51.360] right. When when you're experiencing or
[01:27:53.199] when when you're
[01:27:54.159] >> both No. So, I think the tangent to So,
[01:27:57.040] since I have been seeing these orbs,
[01:27:59.520] >> it changed you.
[01:28:00.320] >> Yeah.
[01:28:00.719] >> Tell me how
[01:28:01.840] >> it's an enlightenment. It's a very What
[01:28:03.679] does that word mean?
[01:28:04.400] >> It means that I I I've had a lot of uh
[01:28:08.320] childhood trauma, a lot of stuff. And
[01:28:10.480] everybody who's listened to me for the
[01:28:12.000] last 20 years, I'm very open about my
[01:28:14.000] life. I've been in therapy, EMDR,
[01:28:16.239] Prozac, B.
[01:28:18.639] >> Yeah. I had cancer. Now I'm smoking
[01:28:20.960] again, which is great.
[01:28:21.840] >> What kind of cancer you have?
[01:28:22.800] >> I [clears throat] had breast cancer. A
[01:28:23.840] very rare kind, by the way, that like
[01:28:25.520] less than 1% of the population has. Two
[01:28:28.239] years. And I had such PTSD.
[01:28:30.239] >> My mom did, too, by the way. Do you
[01:28:32.960] other
[01:28:33.360] >> We're fine now. But I had this bizarro
[01:28:35.280] kind that nobody knew about. It was like
[01:28:37.120] a rare form. And then I was in Boca
[01:28:40.000] Raton and I was broken with PTSD. And I
[01:28:42.320] just
[01:28:42.480] >> I saw that in the news or something. You
[01:28:44.480] you were in some trip with your
[01:28:45.920] >> That's when we got stranded. And I saw
[01:28:47.199] orbs in in there too when I was there.
[01:28:49.280] But before that, I was begging God,
[01:28:51.679] whoever, please help me with this PTSD.
[01:28:53.920] I'm broken.
[01:28:54.880] >> Yeah. I'm broken and I I will not come
[01:28:56.960] back from this. This is too much
[01:28:58.480] suffering.
[01:28:59.199] >> Wow.
[01:28:59.679] >> Can't do it, God.
[01:29:00.880] >> And I'm not a religious person. I'm not
[01:29:03.120] whatever. And I just started, that's
[01:29:05.600] when I started seeing the orbs and
[01:29:06.960] meditating. Holy [ __ ]
[01:29:08.080] >> I meditated. And guess what? they, they,
[01:29:10.880] whatever, this connection, this thing,
[01:29:13.280] this awakening. I've had a spiritual
[01:29:14.800] awakening where it's um
[01:29:18.639] it's broken down my past trauma. It's
[01:29:21.600] broken down bad memories, bad ways of
[01:29:24.639] being, by seeing these things.
[01:29:26.880] >> Not by seeing, but also by meditating
[01:29:29.040] every day. I don't know how. I don't
[01:29:32.239] know why.
[01:29:32.880] >> Do you take like five minutes or
[01:29:34.800] >> an hour? I can meditate for two hours.
[01:29:36.159] This morning I did for two hours. Yeah.
[01:29:38.159] I sit in the dark for 2 hours and I get
[01:29:41.360] in downloads of emotional downloads. No.
[01:29:44.719] And I sit there. I just [ __ ] sit
[01:29:46.560] there. And I'm telling you and I I've
[01:29:48.480] worked through my 50 years of trauma. I
[01:29:54.239] cry. I rage. I get angry. And then I get
[01:29:57.920] another inspiration, another thing.
[01:30:00.400] Maybe it's the subconscious mind. Maybe
[01:30:02.239] it's my unconscious mind. Whatever the
[01:30:04.239] [ __ ]
[01:30:05.920] And now I'm at a point where like uh I
[01:30:08.639] feel more integrated as they say and
[01:30:10.719] Carl Jung would say you've integrated
[01:30:12.159] your shadows. So I've been able to see
[01:30:14.480] my shadows,
[01:30:16.400] feel them because I didn't have feelings
[01:30:18.000] for many years. I was so traumatized
[01:30:20.320] >> and this whatever since I've been seeing
[01:30:22.880] orbs I feel things.
[01:30:25.040] >> Okay. So, is it since you've been seeing
[01:30:27.760] orbs
[01:30:29.280] that that that changed your life or is
[01:30:31.440] it that your life changed and then you
[01:30:34.159] looked up?
[01:30:35.440] >> Both in conjunction. I've always been a
[01:30:37.280] seeker. I've always I studied philosophy
[01:30:39.840] in college. I've always been curious
[01:30:42.239] about the existence of reality. I never
[01:30:44.320] thought that what
[01:30:45.280] >> onlogical right
[01:30:46.400] >> ontological proof. I I went to Oxford. I
[01:30:48.880] studied every proof for the existence of
[01:30:50.639] God for one year. Okay. So, I've always
[01:30:53.040] been a seeker.
[01:30:54.080] >> Yes. So it I I've always been in
[01:30:56.400] therapy. I've always been working
[01:30:57.440] towards and then the time I see the orbs
[01:30:59.840] from that point till now. So last
[01:31:02.000] October until now, I've had a thorough
[01:31:04.159] [ __ ] integration of my
[01:31:08.000] consciousness
[01:31:08.800] >> which makes you more um
[01:31:10.880] >> vulnerable.
[01:31:11.600] >> Okay. But yeah, let me I'm going to ask
[01:31:13.679] before you tell me.
[01:31:14.400] >> Go ahead.
[01:31:15.360] >> Um does it make you more authentic?
[01:31:18.800] >> Yes.
[01:31:20.639] >> And I can't tolerate
[01:31:23.040] inauthentic. I never really could
[01:31:24.639] before. You can see it in two seconds,
[01:31:25.760] right?
[01:31:25.920] >> And now I can smell it. I don't like it.
[01:31:28.000] I don't want to be near it. And so many
[01:31:29.679] things in my life have fallen away.
[01:31:32.000] >> Yes. Good.
[01:31:32.880] >> Because of that.
[01:31:33.600] >> Now you're focused.
[01:31:34.639] >> Yeah.
[01:31:34.960] >> Because you know the path
[01:31:36.159] >> and what your jiu-jitsu teacher is
[01:31:38.080] saying.
[01:31:38.960] >> That's the point where I just realized
[01:31:40.719] yesterday actually. So I go I walk in
[01:31:42.400] nature. I go to the park and I look at
[01:31:44.719] trees.
[01:31:45.199] >> That's part of meditation. Is that you
[01:31:46.560] consider that meditation too?
[01:31:47.920] >> Sure. That's how my [ __ ] brain is.
[01:31:50.239] No.
[01:31:50.719] >> Okay. Cuz I meditate all the time.
[01:31:52.239] >> Oh, you do? it. I never sit down
[01:31:54.480] anymore. I did that for like 30 years.
[01:31:56.560] >> All I do is I try to be tunnel vision
[01:31:59.840] present.
[01:32:00.480] >> Yes.
[01:32:00.800] >> And for me, people like that's not
[01:32:02.159] meditation. You got to sit down and do
[01:32:03.520] these s and chants and
[01:32:05.360] >> and I'm like what the [ __ ] I'm like I
[01:32:07.360] hate that stuff.
[01:32:08.000] >> Maybe. I'm like right now all I try to
[01:32:10.080] do is be with you.
[01:32:11.040] >> Yeah.
[01:32:11.520] >> Look straight ahead and try to be
[01:32:13.360] present. And to me that's meditation. Is
[01:32:15.600] that right? How you understand it?
[01:32:17.199] >> Yes. And so Yes. And I'm going to Yes.
[01:32:19.600] understand that since I started seeing
[01:32:21.760] orbs they they whatever the this thing
[01:32:26.480] >> I got connected to my heart if that
[01:32:29.360] makes sense they literally or whatever
[01:32:31.760] this this what I do now when I meditate
[01:32:33.920] to get in connection with my soul with
[01:32:36.320] my feelings I would start by putting my
[01:32:39.040] hand on my heart just to feel something
[01:32:41.440] I wasn't feeling anything
[01:32:42.960] >> that's your protocol is you just go like
[01:32:44.880] that because you need you in your mind
[01:32:47.920] the words you use you're like my heart
[01:32:50.639] I'm not feeling. So you see that's what
[01:32:52.719] I mean. You can create anything that is
[01:32:55.040] meaningful to you and it has the intent
[01:32:58.000] that allows you to to do
[01:33:00.239] >> Yes. 100%.
[01:33:01.920] >> Okay.
[01:33:03.040] >> Yes. And so the the more connected I
[01:33:05.280] become to myself, the more connected
[01:33:07.840] I've been to my past, my healing
[01:33:10.800] process, the the more orbs I can see.
[01:33:15.199] Does that make sense? Like I could go
[01:33:16.719] out into [ __ ] camping with my kids
[01:33:18.560] and I see them.
[01:33:20.000] >> So your trap
[01:33:20.560] >> there's some connection.
[01:33:21.520] >> Your trap.
[01:33:22.560] >> What's my trap?
[01:33:23.520] >> It's a big trap.
[01:33:24.960] >> So
[01:33:26.239] >> I go out to a great dinner and I try
[01:33:29.040] this [ __ ] piece of sushi. It's out of
[01:33:30.960] this world. Shout out to it in Ohigh
[01:33:34.239] California. This [ __ ] sushi is the
[01:33:36.560] greatest in the world. The guy makes it
[01:33:38.000] with love. The owner. He puts a piece in
[01:33:40.560] front of me and I eat that and it is so
[01:33:42.480] good. What do I want to do? I want to
[01:33:45.120] share that with [ __ ] everybody. I'm
[01:33:46.800] telling you your [clears throat] trap.
[01:33:47.520] You ready? Yeah. Okay.
[01:33:48.560] >> I want to share that with everybody. And
[01:33:51.280] I [ __ ] tell them, you there's this
[01:33:52.960] guy and you got to go through this
[01:33:54.080] [ __ ] suit is so good. This [laughter]
[01:33:55.120] [ __ ] piece of the [ __ ] thing is
[01:33:56.639] and I get passionate. I'm like, "It's
[01:33:58.320] the [ __ ] best thing. You got to
[01:33:59.360] [ __ ] try it. I'm going to take you.
[01:34:00.239] I'm going to go pick you up right now."
[01:34:02.239] They try it and they're like, "Oh,
[01:34:04.719] great." I go, "What? Wait." And they're
[01:34:06.560] like, "Oh, I hate fish." I'm like, "Why
[01:34:08.719] didn't you [ __ ] tell me?" So, here's
[01:34:11.040] your trap.
[01:34:14.080] This is what I say at the end of the
[01:34:15.760] movie. UFOs are a symbol. They're a
[01:34:19.760] sign.
[01:34:22.080] They're for you.
[01:34:24.080] In my experience, this level of it we're
[01:34:26.159] talking about, not the government level.
[01:34:28.000] They're for you. Your trap is that when
[01:34:31.120] something changes you, which you said it
[01:34:33.920] did, then you want to share that. So,
[01:34:37.360] you're going to tell people, "Hey, come
[01:34:39.679] look at this." And you're going to say,
[01:34:43.199] "It's so cool."
[01:34:46.239] And the trap is you're going to feel bad
[01:34:48.880] when they don't have the same experience
[01:34:50.400] as you. It will happen. Don't worry.
[01:34:52.159] >> Right. No, I've already shown people and
[01:34:53.600] they're like,
[01:34:54.000] >> "It's a no show.
[01:34:55.040] >> Great." No. No. They see them and then
[01:34:56.800] they go, "Cool. What time is the movie?"
[01:34:58.800] Like, they don't give a [ __ ] and it
[01:35:00.480] doesn't affect.
[01:35:01.280] >> So, you're cool with that?
[01:35:02.239] >> Yeah, for sure.
[01:35:03.120] >> Person to person. Like I've seen people
[01:35:05.440] get destroyed because their whole world
[01:35:08.800] changed when they were able to
[01:35:10.239] understand that this is real,
[01:35:12.159] >> whatever this is,
[01:35:13.600] >> and then they go into like
[01:35:17.040] like a PTSD shock that like nobody cares
[01:35:21.199] and they
[01:35:22.080] >> Okay, so you understand that's for you
[01:35:23.679] what you saw.
[01:35:24.560] >> Yes. Well, here's the thing, too. And I
[01:35:26.800] feel like that's just the laser light
[01:35:28.320] show like orbs and stuff and phenomenon
[01:35:30.719] or whatever the [ __ ] you see. That's
[01:35:32.320] just the externals, the the fun, the
[01:35:35.760] fireworks, the truth of it, the
[01:35:37.440] >> shiny thing.
[01:35:38.320] >> Yeah. Like the real stuff is the
[01:35:40.080] internal healing. If you get to connect,
[01:35:42.480] if you get this spiritual thing, that's
[01:35:45.520] the real gold that I want to share with
[01:35:47.840] people. And also, I want
[01:35:49.280] >> you share that without showing them
[01:35:50.239] UFOs. You share that by being you every
[01:35:52.080] day after that. That's point. That's why
[01:35:54.239] I'm here talking. Yes. But that's why I
[01:35:56.560] want to talk to you too because I want
[01:35:58.000] to I if you see these things in the sky,
[01:36:01.199] I just don't want the government
[01:36:02.560] narrative of like,
[01:36:03.920] >> yeah, be careful.
[01:36:04.880] >> This is war,
[01:36:06.400] >> right?
[01:36:06.800] >> We got to we got to go to war with these
[01:36:09.199] things. I don't think that everything in
[01:36:11.280] the sky is inherently evil. And
[01:36:13.440] >> so you're seeing that. So I don't read
[01:36:16.080] media because my mom will screenshot
[01:36:18.719] anything negative and send it to me. I
[01:36:20.239] don't need to read it. So what what
[01:36:23.199] you're telling me and I just want to
[01:36:24.400] make sure is the predominant narrative
[01:36:27.600] in popular culture right now
[01:36:31.040] that that they're coming and we got to
[01:36:33.760] prepare and be ready and be worried. Is
[01:36:36.719] is that is that what you're saying?
[01:36:38.239] >> I think what I've observed as a as a
[01:36:40.800] child of the Cold War, you and I are
[01:36:42.400] about the same. We're the same age.
[01:36:43.679] >> 49.
[01:36:44.320] >> Yeah, I'm 49, too. And I think we're
[01:36:46.480] raised in the cold war narrative of
[01:36:50.400] we've also watched all the movies um you
[01:36:52.960] know close encounters and like you're
[01:36:55.760] led to believe that what else is out
[01:36:58.639] there is inherently going to it's going
[01:37:00.880] to abduct you. You're going to wake up
[01:37:02.800] and your butt's going to be bleeding.
[01:37:04.719] This is a [ __ ] these are the this is
[01:37:06.800] gnarly. This is bad. You got to prevent
[01:37:08.880] against knowing these things. And I'm
[01:37:11.360] like, I just don't think that's a very
[01:37:13.440] intelligent way to go about looking at
[01:37:16.400] the unknown. We don't know. I don't
[01:37:18.800] know. I can't tell you. Maybe there is
[01:37:20.400] no correlation between me seeing stuff
[01:37:23.360] in the sky and having um an emotional
[01:37:25.840] healing. I don't know. Maybe there
[01:37:27.520] isn't. You're right. But I think for us
[01:37:29.520] immediately Oh, good. Okay. So, then we
[01:37:31.679] agree on that.
[01:37:32.159] >> But I I don't understand chicken and egg
[01:37:33.600] yet with you. And we're gonna get to
[01:37:34.639] that because I'm gonna interview you in
[01:37:35.920] a second. So, [laughter]
[01:37:36.880] >> Oh, [ __ ] But I just don't I I just hate
[01:37:39.440] the narrative of like uh weapons and we
[01:37:42.880] you know this is
[01:37:44.080] >> But you hate the narrative because it
[01:37:45.840] you don't like weapons or do you hate
[01:37:47.760] the narrative because you think it's
[01:37:50.800] Exactly. I don't want the public
[01:37:52.159] inherently thinking that because it's
[01:37:54.239] unknown it's bad and we have to go to
[01:37:56.080] war over it. We have to nuke somebody
[01:37:58.000] over it. That's the thing. So, we're
[01:37:59.920] totally aligned,
[01:38:01.280] >> but there's a lot of nuance.
[01:38:04.080] >> And I I depending on what you want to
[01:38:06.639] talk about and your audience wants to
[01:38:07.920] hear, I would love to break down the
[01:38:09.920] nuance of the messaging from our
[01:38:12.000] government.
[01:38:13.360] >> If you want that's too much, [ __ ] that.
[01:38:15.840] >> Can I tell you cuz I feel like I then
[01:38:17.199] [ __ ] their messaging. It's like
[01:38:18.960] >> but be aware.
[01:38:19.600] >> It's so much information and
[01:38:20.800] disinformation and [ __ ] It's like,
[01:38:22.400] oh [ __ ] who cares what
[01:38:24.000] >> Okay,
[01:38:24.800] >> that's what I'm saying.
[01:38:25.679] >> So then I'm I'm going to simpify it.
[01:38:27.600] simpify it, which is just um
[01:38:33.840] >> you cannot trust
[01:38:36.320] anybody that isn't independent
[01:38:39.040] telling you [ __ ] Obvious.
[01:38:43.119] The reason the government
[01:38:45.600] uses emissaries to tell you like a
[01:38:48.719] spaceship might be coming is what
[01:38:50.639] they're saying. You know, sometimes
[01:38:54.639] that we have to prepare
[01:38:57.600] is because
[01:38:59.600] in the good sense that's their [ __ ]
[01:39:03.040] job is to protect you. They can't get
[01:39:05.840] out of their mind the weaponization the
[01:39:07.840] last 70 [ __ ] 80 90 years. So I'm
[01:39:11.440] going to give them an out. I'm going to
[01:39:12.800] give them an out.
[01:39:13.840] >> However, reality
[01:39:16.320] >> reality
[01:39:18.080] these are so advanced. These craft, I
[01:39:20.880] don't know if the beings are might be
[01:39:22.000] [ __ ] retards who stole the piece from
[01:39:23.440] their parents, but like the craft are so
[01:39:26.239] advanced. They wanted to hurt us. They
[01:39:28.639] hurt us at any given time.
[01:39:30.000] >> That's what I said when when Duncan was
[01:39:31.440] here. They could have wiped us out.
[01:39:32.880] >> [ __ ] Duncan. Why isn't he here
[01:39:34.560] >> a million? I know.
[01:39:36.080] >> Duncan, I texted you three [ __ ] times
[01:39:38.639] and I gave you a goddamn Duncan.
[01:39:40.639] >> God damn it. If you don't meet me at
[01:39:42.880] 3:50 today at my hotel for me to take
[01:39:45.119] you to Willy Wonka's magical emporium of
[01:39:47.840] fantasy, [ __ ] you. [ __ ] you. And you
[01:39:50.880] have to make it up. Wow. That too.
[01:39:53.199] >> Um, okay. Where are we? Sorry.
[01:39:55.840] >> Where are you? Where do you want to go?
[01:39:57.440] >> Where do I want to go? I mean, look, I
[01:39:59.280] just think there's more to this. I think
[01:40:01.119] that we're in a highly materialistic
[01:40:03.600] age where we have been
[01:40:07.600] >> told how to think, how to feel. Um,
[01:40:11.920] and there look, spirituality and all
[01:40:14.400] these things have been human
[01:40:16.239] consciousness is also the great mystery
[01:40:18.639] that we don't know [ __ ] about. And I
[01:40:20.719] think the atomic model that we're on is
[01:40:22.560] [ __ ] [ __ ] too. And we're about
[01:40:24.880] to enter this new era
[01:40:27.040] >> of understanding consciousness and how
[01:40:29.119] it works. And but that's the thing is
[01:40:31.199] like, let's [ __ ] do it. Come on.
[01:40:33.119] What's the hope?
[01:40:34.000] >> What's my hope? Let's [ __ ] go. Let's
[01:40:36.960] force it. Let's use people's desire to
[01:40:41.360] force scientific study to to force
[01:40:44.800] experiments. Let's focus on human
[01:40:47.600] consciousness because there's something
[01:40:49.280] beautiful that is intangible to me where
[01:40:53.679] our consciousness has a direct interplay
[01:40:57.520] with physical reality. I've experienced
[01:40:59.600] that.
[01:40:59.840] >> Of course. Look, the the secret,
[01:41:02.480] remember that thing that came out in
[01:41:04.000] 200?
[01:41:04.560] >> Yes. It felt like a cult though.
[01:41:06.159] >> Really? Because I'm sitting here now in
[01:41:07.840] a [ __ ] studio. This is the house that
[01:41:09.679] farts built because I was into the
[01:41:12.400] secret and manifesting and using your
[01:41:14.159] mind to create. That's what I'm saying.
[01:41:15.760] Like I created a stupid career telling
[01:41:18.719] jokes about my tits through just
[01:41:21.520] believing and going. So consciousness is
[01:41:23.840] very powerful.
[01:41:24.800] >> Okay, so that's real. But then what if
[01:41:26.480] I've got friends that are super sick and
[01:41:30.320] they have incurable diseases and
[01:41:33.440] everybody's telling them, "Oh, do this
[01:41:35.840] the secret. Do this meditate. Do this."
[01:41:38.480] And then what happens is they still got
[01:41:40.320] cancer.
[01:41:41.360] >> They still [ __ ] die. And so what I'm
[01:41:43.360] asking you is,
[01:41:45.040] >> you know, how do you
[01:41:47.119] >> square that circle? You're like, so I
[01:41:51.600] agree with you that my whole life
[01:41:53.360] >> I'm talking about material success. I'm
[01:41:55.280] not talking about health and I'm talking
[01:41:57.199] about like
[01:41:57.679] >> so in your body you can't have effect I
[01:42:00.639] don't know I
[01:42:01.679] >> my mom told me when she had cancer
[01:42:03.679] really bad that she got all the
[01:42:05.280] treatments she lost her hair she did all
[01:42:06.800] this when I was a kid I was like 13 and
[01:42:08.960] she says I visualized like snow just
[01:42:14.000] coming over going all over my body just
[01:42:16.159] ripping out the cancer getting it gone
[01:42:17.440] now we don't know was it the
[01:42:18.239] chemotherapy was it the snow I don't
[01:42:20.560] know but it can't but it can't hurt
[01:42:22.960] >> to to visualize like you in the material
[01:42:25.440] success of your life to visualize a
[01:42:27.600] healthy body. Yeah. What's in your mind
[01:42:29.360] is is
[01:42:30.239] >> is very powerful.
[01:42:31.119] >> It's it is the the worst virus ain't
[01:42:34.159] [ __ ] co. The worst virus is a [ __ ]
[01:42:37.520] douchebag putting negativity on. You
[01:42:39.760] have to guard your mind like more than
[01:42:43.199] you need to guard your physical body.
[01:42:44.719] >> Of course.
[01:42:45.199] >> Okay. So, we're talking the same l.
[01:42:46.560] We're just meeting for the first time in
[01:42:47.760] person. I can do that, too.
[01:42:49.760] >> Wait, hold on. So, do you think that
[01:42:51.280] have you heard stories?
[01:42:52.320] >> I mean, burp was I could do that. Rip.
[01:42:54.239] Get Let's [ __ ] rip, dude. Have you
[01:42:56.239] heard stories like mine where people see
[01:42:58.800] orbs and then they become awakened or
[01:43:01.440] something,
[01:43:02.560] >> Christina?
[01:43:03.280] >> What? [laughter]
[01:43:04.560] I don't know. I'm new to this. The I've
[01:43:07.199] only talked to the black.
[01:43:08.239] >> I heard [laughter]
[01:43:09.679] >> I know
[01:43:10.239] >> stories like yours.
[01:43:12.080] >> If I had a nick, if I had a penny,
[01:43:13.920] honey. So So check it out. But to give
[01:43:16.000] you a positive um feedback here,
[01:43:20.560] my
[01:43:22.400] emails are like a Vegas slot machine at
[01:43:25.440] midnight.
[01:43:26.400] >> I know.
[01:43:26.960] >> From No, no, in a good way. From all
[01:43:30.560] around the world,
[01:43:32.639] from every socioeconomic class of human
[01:43:36.676] [snorts] being, from every country,
[01:43:40.400] from every educational background,
[01:43:44.639] military, non-military,
[01:43:47.040] kids that like write me they're doing a
[01:43:49.600] class paper cuz they saw something at
[01:43:51.280] 13.
[01:43:53.520] You're asking me, have I ever heard a
[01:43:55.760] story like yours?
[01:43:58.639] It is a worldwide
[01:44:02.480] experience. We just don't talk about it
[01:44:06.639] or share it because we've been told
[01:44:11.280] you ain't wrapped so tight.
[01:44:14.800] >> The awakening part though, the the
[01:44:16.719] integration, the emotional, spiritual,
[01:44:19.679] >> all these words you use, people, I hear
[01:44:21.440] them all the time. I don't relate to
[01:44:23.119] that. What is the awakening? What is the
[01:44:25.040] spiritual? I am awake. I am alive. Is
[01:44:28.560] the world
[01:44:29.199] >> that's the bridge? But that's the bridge
[01:44:31.360] between guys like you and guys like me
[01:44:34.639] the the the spiritual the emotional uh
[01:44:39.920] >> artists and like the do you know that's
[01:44:43.360] we're creating the bridge.
[01:44:44.159] >> No, but maybe we are. I I don't know.
[01:44:46.480] Talking feels good. But but here's the
[01:44:48.639] deal. I think we are all awake.
[01:44:52.000] >> No, no, no. Let me make my argument.
[01:44:54.560] >> Let me make my argument.
[01:44:55.679] >> Okay. I I believe in humanity. We are
[01:44:59.679] spectacular creatures.
[01:45:02.480] We have so much pain because by the way,
[01:45:04.960] life has pain. Yes. As you know,
[01:45:08.080] >> and we were born awake.
[01:45:11.360] We are awake. What we're doing is we're
[01:45:15.600] numbing ourselves. We're awake. All you
[01:45:18.800] got to do is stop numbing yourself. Be
[01:45:22.000] okay with pain.
[01:45:23.199] >> Yeah.
[01:45:23.520] >> Be okay with fear. Be okay with being
[01:45:25.040] vulnerable. Be okay.
[01:45:26.960] >> Yes.
[01:45:27.440] >> Saying what you mean, mean what you say,
[01:45:28.960] though. Don't [ __ ] around. Life is
[01:45:31.119] short. Don't [ __ ] around.
[01:45:32.400] >> Yes.
[01:45:32.800] >> You got somebody that you have a riff
[01:45:35.840] with, call them. If they don't pick up,
[01:45:39.199] that's on them. You've tried.
[01:45:41.440] >> Yes.
[01:45:42.159] >> Tell them. I I'm just saying we're I
[01:45:45.520] don't like these delineations because
[01:45:47.679] what happens? You say spiritual. Oh,
[01:45:50.000] he's not spiritual. I know you're not
[01:45:52.000] saying that, but I'm saying like, [ __ ]
[01:45:54.080] that. You're a human being. You're alive
[01:45:55.760] there. It's like it's like a racist
[01:45:57.600] spiritual thing. You're like awake.
[01:45:59.679] >> I'm I'm a spiritual racist. How dare Oh
[01:46:02.159] my god. [ __ ] now you're [laughter]
[01:46:03.440] [ __ ] taking the piss out of me. No,
[01:46:04.800] no, I know. But
[01:46:06.320] >> I'm just saying I'm trying to make a
[01:46:08.000] point cuz I' I've felt this so long,
[01:46:09.920] which is that
[01:46:11.040] >> so, you know, it's so 1950s to be a
[01:46:13.119] racist. You got to be a real to be a
[01:46:14.800] racist, right?
[01:46:16.080] >> So, here's the deal. Um, we're human
[01:46:18.800] beings.
[01:46:20.320] I think we're on a rock that's spinning.
[01:46:22.960] I think never gone up. I haven't been
[01:46:25.199] invited up yet
[01:46:26.560] >> to space to check it out.
[01:46:28.239] >> Um,
[01:46:29.440] >> when people say words like awakening and
[01:46:32.639] this sort of thing, it isolates a
[01:46:34.800] certain population of people. They feel,
[01:46:36.000] well, I maybe I'm not awake. [ __ ] that.
[01:46:38.480] Everybody's awake. We are all have pain.
[01:46:41.520] This is my personal choice. So, so I'm
[01:46:43.920] trying to be inclusive and saying,
[01:46:45.679] "Motherfuckers,
[01:46:47.440] nut up and stop being a [ __ ] and stop
[01:46:52.400] hiding what you're really thinking. Just
[01:46:54.159] [ __ ] say it." And if people your
[01:46:56.080] friends don't like it, then you don't
[01:46:58.080] got to be friends with them no more.
[01:46:59.520] Like you said, you called the herd. You
[01:47:01.280] didn't say those words, but with your
[01:47:02.560] [ __ ] friends.
[01:47:03.600] >> So, I I'm sorry. That's just I've been
[01:47:05.360] feeling that a lot lately. We are all in
[01:47:07.360] this together. [ __ ] off.
[01:47:09.440] >> Yeah. Right. I think you're I think what
[01:47:12.080] you're saying is absolutely right. I
[01:47:13.679] don't know that I think there's a
[01:47:14.880] process. Everybody is capable of feeling
[01:47:19.199] and experiencing what I did. I'm not
[01:47:20.800] saying I'm special. Every human's
[01:47:22.960] birthright is to become integrated or
[01:47:25.760] awakened. Yes, you're you're it is a
[01:47:29.040] divine right that you should be happy
[01:47:31.040] that you should do what your jiu-jitsu
[01:47:32.560] teacher was saying like fully experience
[01:47:35.360] your being or whatever it is to to be
[01:47:38.800] fully yourself
[01:47:40.719] diminish what your experience to make
[01:47:42.719] someone else comfortable tell them about
[01:47:44.000] your [ __ ] orbs and you did you went
[01:47:45.440] on a worldwide podcast but [laughter] I
[01:47:47.119] mean so you're doing it but I'm saying
[01:47:48.639] you know speak up everybody speak up if
[01:47:50.960] you've had a UFO UAP experience speak up
[01:47:53.840] you don't got to talk to me just don't
[01:47:55.600] call me Call everybody else. Just tell
[01:47:57.760] them. Don't be fanatical about it. Just
[01:48:00.080] tell them. And if you and if they pick
[01:48:02.239] it up and consume it like the fish and
[01:48:04.719] they like the [ __ ] the sushi,
[01:48:06.639] >> they're in they're on they're on our
[01:48:08.000] team. And if not, no worries. Don't
[01:48:09.920] listen to me. Then then fine. Not in
[01:48:11.280] this lifetime. Next lifetime you'll pick
[01:48:13.119] it up.
[01:48:14.480] >> But I think there's I think what I think
[01:48:16.159] is happening is we all have
[01:48:17.679] consciousness, right? Everybody's
[01:48:19.760] conscious to some extent. how much of it
[01:48:22.080] we can exercise through feeling our
[01:48:24.400] feelings is what opens that
[01:48:26.320] consciousness what you're saying so a
[01:48:28.880] lot of us are actually unconscious in a
[01:48:30.880] sense of we're numbing we're avoiding
[01:48:33.600] we're every most of us
[01:48:35.199] >> my fear does that to me I become a my
[01:48:36.960] wife says okay Jeremy you're in robot
[01:48:39.440] mode
[01:48:39.840] >> of dissociation I dissociated for 34
[01:48:42.639] years
[01:48:42.880] >> I've never been to a therapist since
[01:48:44.530] [laughter] cuz I can't tell him you know
[01:48:47.280] I I hear you have to be honest to a
[01:48:49.199] therapist [laughter] and I like If I've
[01:48:51.199] heard class I can't tell them as a jer
[01:48:53.440] you know so like I dude I would love a
[01:48:55.280] therapist but not a CIA therapist you
[01:48:57.440] know what I mean somebody that would
[01:48:58.400] anyway so you're saying please continue
[01:49:01.119] your thoughts
[01:49:01.520] >> yeah what I'm saying is most of us are
[01:49:04.080] cap we are all capable
[01:49:06.080] >> every human being every human is capable
[01:49:08.480] >> of of experiencing and feeling authentic
[01:49:10.960] >> what I have absolutely I'm not special
[01:49:13.199] I'm not different I just sought it out
[01:49:16.560] I'm a seeker
[01:49:17.360] >> you sought it out so okay so but you
[01:49:19.440] haven't answered my question and it's
[01:49:21.119] going to be a worm in my brain
[01:49:22.960] >> and you got an answer or you don't know
[01:49:24.880] as an answer.
[01:49:26.320] >> Chicken or egg.
[01:49:28.639] >> Did your life change because you saw the
[01:49:31.520] orbs? Yes.
[01:49:32.560] >> Or did you see the orbs because your
[01:49:35.280] life changed?
[01:49:36.320] >> Both. Both, but more of the former.
[01:49:38.239] Okay. So, hold on.
[01:49:39.360] >> Explain.
[01:49:40.800] >> My life was always I've always I said
[01:49:42.560] I've been a seeker, but then I hit rock
[01:49:44.239] bottom. I see orbs
[01:49:46.560] and I believe now I believe that there's
[01:49:48.560] something bigger out there cuz I [ __ ]
[01:49:50.800] have confirmation that the supernatural
[01:49:52.560] is real. I mean I walk I couldn't sleep
[01:49:54.400] that night. I couldn't I couldn't go
[01:49:56.880] back to living the life I had lived cuz
[01:49:58.960] I I had confirmation.
[01:50:01.360] >> How long ago?
[01:50:02.239] >> This is in October last October and
[01:50:04.320] Bokea [ __ ] Rome [ __ ] What? How did
[01:50:07.040] your husband react when [laughter] you
[01:50:08.560] were like, "Babe, I saw some [ __ ]
[01:50:10.800] orbs and I think they're aliens." And um
[01:50:13.600] so how are you doing? [laughter] How did
[01:50:15.679] he react?
[01:50:16.400] >> He knows that I'm wacky and was always
[01:50:18.480] like, "I believe you. I believe you."
[01:50:20.239] >> Did you want him to trust you? Oh, you
[01:50:22.960] want him to see it?
[01:50:23.840] >> So I said, "Great." We went back home
[01:50:26.320] and on our rooftop here in Austin, I go,
[01:50:30.320] "Let me just see if it'll happen here."
[01:50:32.239] And it did. and he sat down and he goes,
[01:50:35.360] "Holy [ __ ] it's like a [ __ ] parade."
[01:50:37.600] I go, "I'm parade." No. [laughter]
[01:50:39.760] >> And he's like, "But it doesn't it
[01:50:41.360] doesn't affect him." Like,
[01:50:42.320] >> they weren't in a straight line.
[01:50:43.600] >> No. No. They go every which direction.
[01:50:46.239] He goes, "It's a [ __ ] parade."
[01:50:48.000] >> What was his feelings?
[01:50:50.800] Was he was just like, "That's why I'm
[01:50:51.920] cool. I got to go do a [ __ ]
[01:50:53.119] >> 100%." That's cool. And And that's why I
[01:50:55.679] I'm not so affected by it. Like if you
[01:50:57.600] don't It's not your time. Maybe you're
[01:50:59.760] not able to have maybe they tap into
[01:51:02.880] something that you're ready to give.
[01:51:04.239] >> Okay. But when you say it's not your
[01:51:05.280] time, you make people feel like they're
[01:51:07.520] lesser than you.
[01:51:08.960] >> No, no. I'm I'm just trying to tell you
[01:51:10.000] what I've experienced for 15 years. So
[01:51:12.159] I'm So I'm I'm trying to make UFOs great
[01:51:15.119] again. I'm trying [laughter]
[01:51:17.119] >> I can't believe I just said that. I am
[01:51:18.960] trying to
[01:51:21.760] be a witness to people as a journalist
[01:51:25.119] that I have heard
[01:51:27.600] tens of thousands of people's whose
[01:51:30.159] lives have been transformed.
[01:51:31.600] >> Thank God I'm now I'm not crazy now.
[01:51:33.840] >> Well, I didn't I did not say that. I did
[01:51:36.400] not say that.
[01:51:36.800] >> You told me there's others. I'm just
[01:51:38.159] glad there's others. There definitely
[01:51:39.599] are others, but like um
[01:51:42.320] >> like my wife can't give a [ __ ] about it.
[01:51:44.719] There's a tip jar
[01:51:46.560] >> in our minds
[01:51:47.760] >> for if I say the word UFO, she doesn't
[01:51:50.159] give a [ __ ] She's like, "Ask me how you
[01:51:52.639] doing?" I go for 15 minutes cuz I'm in
[01:51:54.400] like interview mode and and she's like,
[01:51:56.800] "No, I ju I just asked, "Did you feed
[01:51:59.840] the dogs?"
[01:52:01.520] >> You know what I mean? It's like like
[01:52:03.760] your husband, it's not that it's not his
[01:52:06.239] time. It's just doesn't matter to him.
[01:52:07.520] He's He's on his path. Yeah. He's doing
[01:52:09.119] his thing. It mattered to you.
[01:52:10.480] >> It mattered to me because I cares about
[01:52:12.239] it for it. But I also asked for it. I
[01:52:15.679] was broken.
[01:52:17.360] >> I had just gone I had just experienced
[01:52:19.760] the most awful thing in the world. And I
[01:52:22.320] asked for it and I think and I asked for
[01:52:24.800] grace, whatever that is in religious
[01:52:26.400] terms,
[01:52:27.760] >> and I got that help. So I don't [ __ ]
[01:52:30.560] know. There's something about being so
[01:52:33.040] and and this is I don't know if that's a
[01:52:34.639] common denominator too in these people
[01:52:36.320] with the A lot of times people are at a
[01:52:39.760] point where they let down their guard.
[01:52:42.800] >> Yes, that's what it is.
[01:52:44.320] >> And their boundary.
[01:52:46.480] >> Yeah,
[01:52:47.520] >> that's what it is. It's it's the the the
[01:52:50.400] programmed societal ego mind that says
[01:52:52.880] this is for weirdos. You're [ __ ]
[01:52:54.560] weird. You can just knuckle white
[01:52:56.719] knuckle through it. Just shut up. Just
[01:52:58.320] get on with things.
[01:52:59.119] >> Which is a survival thing we have to do.
[01:53:01.119] >> Yes. And it got me really far for many
[01:53:03.360] years. And then I cracked open
[01:53:05.679] emotionally.
[01:53:06.560] >> That happened to me.
[01:53:07.520] >> Yeah. Right.
[01:53:08.320] >> Yeah.
[01:53:08.960] >> And then you go, "Enough. I'm 50 years
[01:53:11.199] old. It's now or never. When will I be a
[01:53:13.280] [ __ ] human being?
[01:53:14.560] >> I can't do this anymore."
[01:53:15.679] >> Now imagine what you can do now that you
[01:53:18.639] have focus and selfawareness and
[01:53:22.480] >> love in your heart.
[01:53:23.920] >> Yes.
[01:53:24.639] >> Power.
[01:53:26.639] >> Uh that's amazing. If we can all get
[01:53:29.360] there.
[01:53:30.239] >> Yes. in our own lives, the world would
[01:53:33.199] be a beautiful [ __ ] place.
[01:53:35.040] >> And I think that's the point of these
[01:53:38.400] phenomenon. I think that's a lot of
[01:53:40.400] this, don't you?
[01:53:41.599] >> I I don't know. As a journalist, I don't
[01:53:44.000] know, but I feel that there's an
[01:53:48.880] opportunity for that.
[01:53:50.719] >> Yeah. because I've just talked to too
[01:53:53.040] many moms,
[01:53:57.040] brothers, sisters, doctors, lawyers,
[01:53:59.760] plumbers, carpenters,
[01:54:02.239] um
[01:54:04.159] people from all over the world that tell
[01:54:06.639] me that they were changed. So that's why
[01:54:09.840] at the end of the movie
[01:54:12.320] I when I saw it, I was like, "That's it.
[01:54:14.320] You got it, kid." The kid, Michael,
[01:54:16.320] >> I was like, "Us." Cuz it was like this
[01:54:18.239] long talk I'm making.
[01:54:19.440] >> I know. I love it. I love it. It was so
[01:54:21.599] good.
[01:54:21.840] >> I want to actually say one thing about
[01:54:23.280] the movie. Check it out. Um,
[01:54:26.560] >> what I said, if I recall, is that to me,
[01:54:30.239] or I don't know if I said to me, but
[01:54:31.840] UFOs are just a symbol.
[01:54:34.159] >> Yeah,
[01:54:34.560] >> they're they're an opportunity.
[01:54:38.080] It's It's like to remind you. So, I'm
[01:54:40.960] agreeing with you. I think that they
[01:54:44.719] pose an opportunity to be reminded of
[01:54:46.880] the mystery
[01:54:48.880] of what it means to be born, what it
[01:54:51.920] means to live your life. And if we stop
[01:54:55.599] thinking about ourselves and we start
[01:54:57.199] thinking about
[01:54:59.199] others and we start thinking about like
[01:55:01.199] other people, we start thinking about
[01:55:02.960] what it means to be human, then we
[01:55:04.960] realize that we need to live by example.
[01:55:07.360] And if we live by example,
[01:55:08.719] >> yes,
[01:55:09.199] >> that is the greatest lesson you could
[01:55:11.199] ever give anybody you care about is to
[01:55:15.520] live what you say with your mouth. And I
[01:55:18.480] think that's what UFOs
[01:55:20.639] >> I think that's what UFOs are. other than
[01:55:22.960] technologically advanced craft that the
[01:55:24.320] government has hidden from you. And the
[01:55:25.920] CIA is after everybody that was trying
[01:55:27.840] to speak for it. And they've gone after
[01:55:29.040] whistlers for treason and they [ __ ]
[01:55:31.280] tried to [ __ ] me and [ __ ] George and
[01:55:32.960] control us and control our mouths. And
[01:55:34.880] [ __ ] you for not wanting the world to
[01:55:36.880] know this beautiful, beautiful truth.
[01:55:38.719] And sure, maybe there's something scary.
[01:55:41.360] Maybe we're a commodity. Maybe it's too
[01:55:44.480] big a secret. Don't kick a sleeping dog,
[01:55:46.400] Jeremy. You know what? [ __ ] you. You're
[01:55:48.639] not my daddy. I never asked you to be
[01:55:51.360] the [ __ ] barrier between me and the
[01:55:53.440] natural world. You can suck a dick.
[01:55:55.760] >> Yes.
[01:55:56.320] >> Yeah. And I think that's
[01:55:58.239] >> Jerry Corval. [laughter]
[01:56:01.360] >> It's like the booth people cla Yeah. You
[01:56:03.679] make me feel good. Watch out. Praise and
[01:56:05.840] blame is all the same. All of a sudden
[01:56:07.360] gets in my head that you like that.
[01:56:09.679] >> [ __ ] that.
[01:56:10.639] >> Don't get eye on your own supply.
[01:56:12.560] >> Oh, dude. Come on. What kind of drug
[01:56:15.520] dealer are you if you don't? You got to
[01:56:16.960] test it before you sell it anyway.
[01:56:19.119] No, but I think I think you're right.
[01:56:20.719] Uh, anyway, that was a beautiful way to
[01:56:22.719] end this show. I think that you said the
[01:56:24.880] there's nothing more to say after that.
[01:56:26.639] You guys watch Sleeping Dog. How do
[01:56:28.400] people watch it?
[01:56:29.440] >> Yeah, great question. With their
[01:56:30.895] [laughter] eyes,
[01:56:32.159] >> no. Where can they see it?
[01:56:33.440] >> Where can it um like in their room at
[01:56:36.560] home? No,
[01:56:38.800] okay. Check it out. Um, there is one
[01:56:40.560] thing I want to say about it because I
[01:56:42.159] haven't said this yet, but um and it's
[01:56:43.920] important to me. Um, they can watch
[01:56:46.239] Sleeping Dog. This kid Michael Lazowski
[01:56:48.080] made a film uh Sleeping Dog and it is
[01:56:50.480] about UFOs and it was to provoke the
[01:56:52.800] government. That was the reason. It was
[01:56:54.159] to show people the stress and pressure
[01:56:56.719] that I was put under by intelligence
[01:56:58.480] agencies, private corporations and also
[01:57:01.119] what the whistleblowers have gone
[01:57:02.480] through and you see that all um but what
[01:57:05.840] I want to say about the movie other than
[01:57:09.199] I let people in because I thought it
[01:57:12.000] would be protective for me. That's what
[01:57:13.440] he convinced me. Um cuz I don't want to
[01:57:15.920] live in fear and I don't want to live
[01:57:17.360] under pressure and I don't want to live
[01:57:18.960] in these secret things where you know
[01:57:21.040] I'm having to have secret meetings in
[01:57:22.560] [ __ ] Congress. I want [snorts] this
[01:57:24.400] all to be out. Whatever it is, I want it
[01:57:27.199] to be out. I am just literally doing my
[01:57:29.599] best as a journalist with George.
[01:57:33.599] What I want to say about the movie is
[01:57:34.960] this. At the [ __ ] end, I light
[01:57:38.639] a fire.
[01:57:41.199] Let's [ __ ] light this [ __ ] up.
[01:57:43.280] >> Yep. There's a song that plays and I
[01:57:46.480] just want to say thank you because I've
[01:57:48.159] never said this because the movie just
[01:57:49.760] came out. Watch it on Amazon. Watch it
[01:57:51.920] on [ __ ] Apple right now. I'm sure a
[01:57:54.320] streamer if they have any wisdom, you
[01:57:57.040] know, we'll see they can make money on
[01:57:58.560] it and want to put it out. But right
[01:57:59.840] now, we just put it out Amazon and
[01:58:01.360] Apple.
[01:58:02.320] >> Everybody can get it.
[01:58:03.920] >> At the end of the movie, there's a song
[01:58:07.199] and it's by a guy named Ben. Ben
[01:58:10.080] Schneider. People know him as Lord
[01:58:12.239] Hiron.
[01:58:13.360] >> He is a an amazing human being.
[01:58:16.800] >> He has this incredible wife. He has I'll
[01:58:20.080] just say offspring.
[01:58:21.679] >> I I don't know how personal I want to
[01:58:23.040] get, but um he he essentially fought to
[01:58:26.000] allow me to include a song at the end of
[01:58:28.560] the movie and um I'm going to butcher
[01:58:30.960] this, but I believe it's um Life is
[01:58:33.360] Strange.
[01:58:34.320] >> Yeah.
[01:58:35.199] >> Can I tell you that I actually listened
[01:58:36.800] to it and I was like that's a really
[01:58:38.159] great song. I hate everything.
[01:58:40.159] [ __ ] Hiron.
[01:58:41.679] >> Oh my god, it was so touching. I was
[01:58:43.679] like, that's a really perfect song to
[01:58:45.280] end this movie on.
[01:58:46.320] >> You just wait. Uh, so so Michael put
[01:58:49.199] that in cuz he became a fan because
[01:58:50.639] George Knap was friends with Ben and
[01:58:52.800] then George has been dragging me for 15
[01:58:55.280] years to learn about music cuz I'm
[01:58:57.199] musically [ __ ] My wife says
[01:58:59.040] stunted, but I say [ __ ]
[01:59:00.639] >> Stunted.
[01:59:01.119] >> You like that? Um, we're going to go see
[01:59:03.599] Lord Hon
[01:59:05.440] on 62
[01:59:08.080] June 2nd at the Santa Barbara Bowl.
[01:59:12.320] And I know I'm not supposed to say where
[01:59:13.599] I'm going to be in time series, but
[01:59:15.040] that's I'm so excited. So that's what I
[01:59:17.599] wanted to say about the movie other than
[01:59:18.880] watch it and it's a very serious
[01:59:20.320] subject. It is funny. It looks like a
[01:59:22.239] horror movie and there's this beautiful
[01:59:24.000] song and it's by this guy Ben and I've
[01:59:26.480] never thanked him yet. So I'm publicly
[01:59:28.480] trying to thank that [ __ ]
[01:59:30.480] >> Thank you. That song meant a lot to me.
[01:59:32.800] >> Well, I just want to thank you for all
[01:59:34.639] the work that you've done on all of this
[01:59:36.800] and I think you're pleasure
[01:59:38.400] >> pushing humanity into its next
[01:59:40.560] iteration. Very necessary.
[01:59:42.560] >> Don't blame me for that.
[01:59:43.599] >> We're out of the uh we're getting out of
[01:59:45.679] the old 1950s mentality.
[01:59:47.599] >> We better cuz it's 2026 last I heard.
[01:59:50.159] >> Yeah, it's so [ __ ] boring. And I
[01:59:51.840] think that I think the public is ready
[01:59:53.948] [laughter] to The kids are ready. I
[01:59:55.840] don't think anybody's
[01:59:56.639] >> Oh, they're completely ready. Are you
[01:59:57.840] kidding me? The next generation.
[01:59:59.360] >> What are you talking about? Nobody's
[02:00:00.320] freaked out.
[02:00:00.800] >> Nobody cares.
[02:00:01.599] >> No. And and in fact, it's it's
[02:00:03.280] inspiring. It's like the new, you know,
[02:00:05.280] when like atomic physics became a thing
[02:00:07.280] and all these people wanted to be nerds
[02:00:08.560] and study atomic physics. We need more
[02:00:10.400] Americans um you know, studying the
[02:00:12.639] cutting bleeding edge stuff. And I think
[02:00:14.639] UAP should be in every high school.
[02:00:17.199] >> Um just the known facts like no cons
[02:00:19.360] just the known facts like what are the
[02:00:20.800] pilot reports?
[02:00:21.520] >> What are we learning about?
[02:00:22.480] >> Right.
[02:00:23.280] >> What are we learning about now? Silly.
[02:00:24.960] >> I do actually we need to end on
[02:00:26.480] something because your podcast probably
[02:00:27.840] coming out soon. Um,
[02:00:31.760] for the first time in human history,
[02:00:34.719] a president has man I'm not a political
[02:00:37.679] person but
[02:00:38.960] >> first time in human history
[02:00:41.679] a president said release files. Okay. So
[02:00:45.840] what files? So they gave us like a trove
[02:00:48.719] of them. There's more coming really soon
[02:00:50.639] by the way. Really soon.
[02:00:52.880] >> Sleeping dog provokes
[02:00:55.199] cuz I show eight videos that are
[02:00:57.280] military filmed. They have to release
[02:00:59.199] those eight. But there's 46 Congress
[02:01:01.040] asked. I gave them the file names and
[02:01:02.639] they publicly put it out on Twitter.
[02:01:04.480] Here are the file names.
[02:01:06.719] Those 46 videos
[02:01:09.679] better be released to the American
[02:01:11.760] public so that they can assess their
[02:01:15.199] value and validity. And I was promised
[02:01:17.920] by Congress and they publicly put a
[02:01:21.040] photo up with the new director of Arrow
[02:01:24.080] >> and they said, "We are copacetic now,
[02:01:26.239] [ __ ] Let's [ __ ] go." That was not
[02:01:28.239] their tweet, but it is. So, I want to
[02:01:30.000] end your podcast because it probably
[02:01:31.360] comes out soon.
[02:01:32.320] >> June 3rd.
[02:01:34.080] >> What day is it? How long is that?
[02:01:35.599] >> I don't even know what year it is.
[02:01:37.040] >> May. Are we in May?
[02:01:38.159] >> It's 1500s.
[02:01:39.280] >> Is it May now?
[02:01:39.840] >> We're in May.
[02:01:40.239] >> It's May 21st.
[02:01:41.280] >> So, how long till June 3rd?
[02:01:43.440] >> It's like two weeks from now.
[02:01:44.719] >> Okay. So,
[02:01:47.520] hey
[02:01:49.760] government,
[02:01:52.560] you better release those 46 files.
[02:01:56.080] They're coming out. come hell or high
[02:01:58.159] water. And that's just the start. Then
[02:02:00.800] you need to tell people about reverse
[02:02:02.400] engineering and biologics and beings and
[02:02:05.920] autopsies and maybe even agreements.
[02:02:09.520] That's how I want to end this podcast
[02:02:11.280] with you.
[02:02:12.159] >> And I'm so glad we [ __ ] find
[02:02:13.520] >> I love you. Come back again. Let's do
[02:02:14.880] this soon.
[02:02:15.440] >> Every time I'm in Austin, I'm going be
[02:02:16.960] bombing you being like,
[02:02:18.400] >> "Why are you sending me so many videos
[02:02:20.159] of non [laughter]
[02:02:21.520] >> highlight?" And Duncan, [ __ ] you.
[02:02:23.119] >> I love you. I love you. Thank you so
[02:02:24.880] much, Jeremy. You're the best. Sleeping
[02:02:26.719] dog out now. Watch it. Okay. I love you.
[02:02:29.040] Bye, mommy's.
[02:02:29.920] >> Bye, mommy's. Your mama's house.
[02:02:32.000] >> Your mom's house.
[02:02:32.960] >> Ding ding, [ __ ]
[02:02:35.199] Don't [ __ ] play real games with me. I
[02:02:38.560] asked you what your [ __ ] name is,
[02:02:40.239] [ __ ]
[02:02:41.520] >> Look, when's the chief going to be in?
[02:02:44.249] [music]
[02:02:45.280] >> What's your name, man? What's your
[02:02:47.119] operator number?
[02:02:52.080] >> What's so hard about that? What' you
[02:02:53.440] pause for?
[02:02:56.800] She's just scared about. This is Connold
[02:02:59.920] Peterson. Okay. Huh?
[02:03:04.239] >> Paul Peterson.
[02:03:05.599] >> Connell. C N A L D Peterson. What's your
[02:03:08.320] name?
[02:03:10.400] >> I'm the sheriff here. [music]
[02:03:11.840] >> I'm calling about murder, buddy. Okay.
[02:03:14.800] Buddy. Okay. Possible murder. I'm
[02:03:16.880] calling about murder, buddy. Okay.
[02:03:19.599] Buddy. Okay. Possible murder. I want to
[02:03:21.599] know what happened to that [ __ ] kid.
[02:03:23.360] Do you know anything about a kid that
[02:03:24.800] was mentally challenged and [ __ ] to
[02:03:26.719] count murdered?
[02:03:29.760] >> Pardon?
[02:03:31.520] >> I hear you on your phone.
[02:03:32.719] >> Why don't you stick [music] the phone up
[02:03:34.159] to your ear and try to listen? Okay.
[02:03:37.599] >> Okay. Do what? Because uh the whole
[02:03:39.840] world's going to hear this. [music]
[02:03:40.800] What's your name anyways?
[02:03:42.960] >> You didn't know my name?
[02:03:43.920] >> Oh, yeah. I'm going to get your name in
[02:03:45.520] about 3 seconds. Okay. After I call the
[02:03:47.920] state patrol, we're going to track your
[02:03:49.360] name. Okay. How you doing, Sheriff?
[02:03:52.000] What's your name, buddy?
[02:03:55.280] >> Dang dang.
[02:03:58.239] >> Okay. And I think you talked square
[02:03:59.679] enough to where I'm not going to put you
[02:04:00.800] on the net as a baby raper for your blog
[02:04:03.040] and build a YouTube site [music] around
[02:04:04.639] your name. Okay. You going to give me
[02:04:07.360] your name, buddy?
[02:04:09.599] Oh, yeah.
[02:04:11.440] You going to do this, huh?
[02:04:14.719] You're going on the net as a baby raper
[02:04:16.480] after [music] I get your name now,
[02:04:17.760] buddy. Okay.
[02:04:22.480] What's your name, buddy? Don't be scared
[02:04:25.040] to get your name out.
[02:04:28.400] >> You don't need to know [music] my name.
[02:04:29.679] >> Oh, yeah. I'm going to get your name in
[02:04:31.280] about 3 seconds.
[02:04:34.291] [music]
[02:04:34.320] >> I'm calling about murder, buddy.
[02:04:36.256] [singing] Okay, buddy. Okay. Possible
[02:04:38.639] murder. I'm calling about murder, buddy.
[02:04:41.199] Okay, buddy. Okay. Possible murder. I
[02:04:43.920] want to know [music] what happened to
[02:04:44.719] that [ __ ] kid.
[02:04:51.976] >> [music]