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Interview: Remote Viewing the Future - Stephan Schwartz
Interview: Remote Viewing the Future - Stephan Schwartz
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- Publisher: The Rabbit Hole
- Published: 2022-07-18
- Captured: 2026-09-04
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[00:00:09.679] all right excellent so i have uh stefan
[00:00:12.000] schwartz who's um who has projects with
[00:00:14.960] remote viewing and we all know we love
[00:00:16.560] remote viewing on this channel
[00:00:18.320] so stefan thank you for doing this
[00:00:20.080] interview and having this discussion
[00:00:21.920] with me yeah
[00:00:23.760] so uh just if we could jump right into
[00:00:26.480] it can you tell us about an active
[00:00:28.480] project that you have that spiked my
[00:00:30.240] interest and i'm sure a lot of people
[00:00:31.679] who saw these other interviews that you
[00:00:33.280] have on the internet
[00:00:36.160] um i think you're talking about uh
[00:00:39.360] remote viewing the future visions of the
[00:00:41.440] future
[00:00:42.399] yeah well we all saw the 2060 that you
[00:00:45.120] were doing uh 2060 uh taking a series of
[00:00:48.239] remote viewers and and viewing the the
[00:00:50.480] future
[00:00:51.440] yeah
[00:00:52.399] yeah well i started in 1978
[00:00:56.840] um asking people to look at the year
[00:00:59.359] 2050 on the same date as the
[00:01:02.559] session that we did so
[00:01:05.360] if it were the 16th of
[00:01:08.320] of july i'd say chris can you go forward
[00:01:11.280] to the 16th of july
[00:01:13.600] 2050 and can you describe what you see
[00:01:17.840] and i did 4 000 people around the world
[00:01:22.400] and
[00:01:23.920] was very struck by what they told me
[00:01:26.799] which contradicted most of what people
[00:01:29.600] thought
[00:01:32.400] and
[00:01:33.840] uh everything that they have told me
[00:01:35.840] consensually again this is the technique
[00:01:38.960] is not an individual but it's to get
[00:01:42.399] where where you have consensus from many
[00:01:45.119] different individuals
[00:01:47.439] it's exactly the same technique that's
[00:01:49.360] used by the intelligence community
[00:01:52.000] or by investigative reporters
[00:01:55.040] or anybody that's trying to wade through
[00:01:58.159] data to get to an accurate description
[00:02:01.439] so the consensus
[00:02:03.119] that they gave me everything that they
[00:02:04.719] have told me has either come to pass or
[00:02:07.040] is in the process
[00:02:08.479] of coming to pass
[00:02:11.520] so you look for patterns in the data you
[00:02:13.760] take a massive amount of data and the
[00:02:16.239] first thing that comes to mind is are
[00:02:18.480] you using experienced remote viewers
[00:02:20.959] like with coordinates or are you doing a
[00:02:23.040] different method where you
[00:02:24.720] have them calm themselves and go into a
[00:02:27.440] state
[00:02:28.800] because you know everyone defines remote
[00:02:30.480] viewing differently so yes the first
[00:02:32.640] thing i need to tell you is most of what
[00:02:34.959] you hear about remote viewing
[00:02:37.040] is
[00:02:38.000] maybe commercially interesting but
[00:02:40.879] i deal with what science knows about
[00:02:43.440] remote viewing and there is no one way
[00:02:45.360] to remote view
[00:02:46.879] people have been remote viewing
[00:02:49.200] since the 5th century bce that we know
[00:02:51.840] of the oldest recorded remote viewing
[00:02:54.959] is in the
[00:02:56.160] 46th chapter of herodotus's histories of
[00:02:59.519] the world written in the 5th century bce
[00:03:03.200] and it's about a basically exactly the
[00:03:05.840] same experiment that we would do today
[00:03:08.319] we would call it an outbound protocol
[00:03:12.239] in which crisis the king of the lydians
[00:03:15.920] went to the oracles of greece and and
[00:03:19.280] asked them a question and
[00:03:21.519] and they gave him exactly the kind of
[00:03:23.760] answer you would expect to see today
[00:03:27.120] so the i mean the first thing i need to
[00:03:29.519] make sure you understand
[00:03:31.599] is that there is no one way to remote
[00:03:34.159] view there is no best way to remote view
[00:03:37.519] there is no secrets to remote viewing
[00:03:41.120] um
[00:03:42.400] the key to all of it and
[00:03:45.280] the many different ways to do it
[00:03:47.599] is the ability to attain and sustain
[00:03:50.280] intention-focused awareness
[00:03:53.120] that's why meditators routinely do
[00:03:55.360] better than non-meditators
[00:03:57.519] because meditators learn how to attain
[00:04:00.480] and sustain intention-focused awareness
[00:04:03.680] so you can remote view any way you like
[00:04:07.439] there is no best way i interviewed four
[00:04:10.480] thousand people
[00:04:12.319] some of whom were experienced remote
[00:04:14.239] viewers some of whom had never done it
[00:04:16.000] before and i would explain to them what
[00:04:18.560] i wanted them to do and they would do it
[00:04:21.280] and there's almost a beginner's luck
[00:04:22.880] aspect to what i noticed as well there
[00:04:24.800] is what is known as the first time
[00:04:26.800] effect uh
[00:04:29.199] in doing remote viewing when people have
[00:04:31.199] never done it before they have no
[00:04:32.880] expectation
[00:04:34.400] of what's going to happen
[00:04:36.320] and so they often
[00:04:39.120] they don't develop
[00:04:41.280] analytical
[00:04:42.960] judgments or attitudes about it
[00:04:46.160] and so they tend to produce high quality
[00:04:48.560] data it's called the first time effect
[00:04:51.840] that's interesting i mean are you are
[00:04:53.440] you utilizing that in your current
[00:04:55.280] projects now with looking out to the
[00:04:56.960] future or do you have like a network of
[00:04:58.960] remote viewers that you've already
[00:05:00.320] worked with that can kind of do it on
[00:05:02.160] their own
[00:05:03.120] oh
[00:05:04.400] okay
[00:05:05.360] all right
[00:05:06.720] um
[00:05:07.520] i yeah it's always a challenge because
[00:05:09.520] with a new person you first have to
[00:05:11.039] convince them that this is a thing you
[00:05:12.800] have to educate them and i could see how
[00:05:15.600] doing a massive project can be a little
[00:05:17.440] challenging because when you said 4 000
[00:05:19.600] people
[00:05:20.560] i thought well how did how do you go
[00:05:22.240] through 4 000 people man you know well i
[00:05:24.960] travel around the world and when i went
[00:05:27.120] to conferences
[00:05:28.880] or i would get people to do it
[00:05:31.840] or i would inter
[00:05:33.919] interview individuals and ask them to do
[00:05:36.720] it and
[00:05:39.360] then i would transcribe the information
[00:05:42.240] and i'm looking for consensus
[00:05:46.720] i mean if you heard an explosion outside
[00:05:49.120] of your
[00:05:50.320] wherever it is you are
[00:05:52.880] and you ran out into the street and you
[00:05:55.120] saw a crowd of people who had also run
[00:05:57.759] out into the street
[00:05:59.440] what would you do you'd go around and
[00:06:01.199] you'd interview individuals
[00:06:03.840] independently of one another so that
[00:06:06.000] they wouldn't hear what the other person
[00:06:07.759] said
[00:06:09.120] and
[00:06:10.160] what you would be looking for
[00:06:12.080] is consensus we know for instance there
[00:06:14.479] are a lot of variables we know for
[00:06:16.560] instance that
[00:06:18.080] women are more likely to get the color
[00:06:20.639] of a car correct and men they
[00:06:23.440] the brand of the car
[00:06:26.319] so we know that people who
[00:06:29.199] are
[00:06:30.800] highly analytical
[00:06:32.720] are more likely to produce
[00:06:35.199] analytical overlay which isn't useful
[00:06:38.639] the the key to remote viewing is not to
[00:06:40.720] try to figure out
[00:06:42.560] what it is you're looking at but simply
[00:06:44.800] to report the sense impressions
[00:06:47.600] and as i tell people you know if i ask
[00:06:50.319] you can you remember the first time you
[00:06:52.160] took somebody that you were in love with
[00:06:54.160] out to dinner
[00:06:55.599] can you do that
[00:06:58.800] barely
[00:06:59.840] yeah i could yeah i couldn't okay
[00:07:02.720] yeah can you you remember the person
[00:07:04.720] that you went out with
[00:07:06.639] yes
[00:07:08.160] do you remember what they look like
[00:07:10.160] yes
[00:07:11.440] can you picture where you took them
[00:07:14.319] yes of course that's remote viewing yeah
[00:07:17.520] it's just like that
[00:07:19.120] remote viewing is like looking at a
[00:07:20.960] memory or having a memory or
[00:07:23.840] recalling a past experience
[00:07:27.280] uh and the more emotionally engaging it
[00:07:30.000] is the more likely you are to recall it
[00:07:34.479] remote viewing
[00:07:35.840] when you look at targets which are
[00:07:38.720] numinous
[00:07:40.000] that is that our
[00:07:42.400] numenosity is an informational
[00:07:45.039] enrichment process
[00:07:47.840] the key to thinking about this
[00:07:50.720] is to understand
[00:07:53.280] that
[00:07:55.599] consciousness is causal and fundamental
[00:07:58.400] as
[00:07:59.199] max plunk told us in 1931
[00:08:02.720] and also einstein most of the other
[00:08:05.440] german
[00:08:06.560] leaders who created modern physics
[00:08:09.280] and
[00:08:10.840] americans einstein called reality an
[00:08:14.319] optical delusion
[00:08:16.400] when he was interviewed max plunk said
[00:08:19.680] they asked him what did he learn and he
[00:08:21.520] said what i've learned is that
[00:08:22.960] consciousness is causal and fundamental
[00:08:26.000] space time arises from consciousness
[00:08:29.039] not consciousness from space time
[00:08:32.000] so you realize that what we're looking
[00:08:33.760] at and what we call reality are
[00:08:35.519] information architectures
[00:08:38.080] that are created by intentioned
[00:08:40.000] consciousness
[00:08:42.000] so when you're remote viewing what
[00:08:43.760] you're doing is opening to the
[00:08:46.240] non-local aspect of consciousness the
[00:08:48.800] part of you
[00:08:50.160] what religion calls the soul
[00:08:52.720] what i might call the eternal self
[00:08:56.240] it is the that aspect of self which
[00:08:59.040] existed before you incarnated
[00:09:02.160] exists
[00:09:03.200] while you are incarnated and continues
[00:09:05.600] after you're physically dead so part of
[00:09:08.880] this is about the continuity of
[00:09:10.720] consciousness
[00:09:12.399] we also know from research that
[00:09:15.760] although time and space are
[00:09:18.160] informational enrichers that is
[00:09:20.880] they provide information
[00:09:22.399] that's interesting
[00:09:24.160] they are not limitations it's just as
[00:09:26.640] easy to describe a teacup that's in the
[00:09:29.600] next room as it is something on another
[00:09:32.399] planet
[00:09:33.920] the difficulty with describing something
[00:09:36.240] on another planet is you can't check it
[00:09:38.959] but we know from research that has been
[00:09:41.440] done
[00:09:42.640] that people who described situations on
[00:09:45.920] other planets which were then checked by
[00:09:48.560] nasa space probes
[00:09:50.399] turned out to be correct
[00:09:53.519] and and it's interesting how uh
[00:09:55.920] once you get into an application the
[00:09:57.680] applications with remote viewing and
[00:09:59.440] consciousness
[00:10:00.640] um
[00:10:01.600] how did you rephrase it non non-local
[00:10:03.519] consciousness and observing things of a
[00:10:05.200] distance how it spills over into the the
[00:10:08.640] the spiritual aspects of consciousness
[00:10:11.279] and how you just described it as well
[00:10:13.200] and uh you mentioned
[00:10:14.720] reincarnation
[00:10:16.240] and it's it kind of intertwines it's
[00:10:18.720] like most people would start remote
[00:10:20.320] viewing trying to use it for lottery
[00:10:22.480] ticket winnings
[00:10:23.839] you know stock market stuff and then as
[00:10:26.079] they get deeper and deeper this is what
[00:10:27.680] happened with me you all of a sudden you
[00:10:30.240] you dive into spirituality because you
[00:10:32.480] it's all connected and i noticed that
[00:10:35.120] spirituality what we call spirituality
[00:10:38.000] is non-local consciousness
[00:10:40.079] i mean if you look at religions
[00:10:42.800] what you discover is that all religions
[00:10:45.360] begin because a single individual
[00:10:47.920] has a non-local consciousness experience
[00:10:51.040] jesus gets baptized by john
[00:10:53.760] and he goes out into the desert and
[00:10:55.519] meditates and he awakens
[00:10:59.200] buddha goes to an ashram
[00:11:01.680] and is taught meditation and he
[00:11:03.680] meditates and awakens
[00:11:05.839] muhammad goes to a sacred uh
[00:11:08.800] cave the hira cave and he has a
[00:11:11.600] non-local experience and he awakens
[00:11:14.720] joseph smith goes to a sacred grove and
[00:11:18.079] he awakens
[00:11:19.680] it's all
[00:11:20.959] about
[00:11:22.000] the idea that consciousness is causal
[00:11:24.560] and fundamental and what religions do is
[00:11:28.000] they take
[00:11:29.440] the spiritual experiences with what they
[00:11:32.079] call spiritual experiences
[00:11:34.000] non-local consciousness experiences
[00:11:37.440] and if you look at religious services
[00:11:40.480] what you discover is when you strip away
[00:11:43.279] the
[00:11:44.160] the uh
[00:11:45.519] the dogmas
[00:11:47.920] that they hold you know is it one god is
[00:11:50.160] it more than one god is it a you know
[00:11:52.720] all of that
[00:11:54.079] dogmatic belief stuff
[00:11:56.399] when you strip all that away what you
[00:11:58.399] get down to is that all religions
[00:12:01.040] basically have the same basic principles
[00:12:03.600] you you gather together
[00:12:06.800] at a location
[00:12:08.959] that is a church a synagogue a temple
[00:12:13.040] or with the etruscans and oak grove
[00:12:15.760] doesn't make any difference
[00:12:17.839] the reason that you gather in that space
[00:12:21.200] is that your
[00:12:22.800] you make the space
[00:12:24.639] uh that you make the space
[00:12:27.120] what a religion would call sacred
[00:12:29.440] that is the acts of individual
[00:12:32.079] observation that people have
[00:12:34.639] collectively
[00:12:36.160] when they gather together changes the
[00:12:39.200] informational structure of the reality
[00:12:41.680] of that space
[00:12:43.519] we know for instance from the
[00:12:45.120] neuroscience research
[00:12:47.360] that when people sing together
[00:12:49.760] dance together drum together chant
[00:12:52.160] together pray together that their brains
[00:12:55.120] all become entrained
[00:12:57.040] that is they all reflect the same
[00:12:59.200] patterns
[00:13:00.800] and so if you think about it you you go
[00:13:04.000] to church you begin by making a
[00:13:06.320] statement of shared belief it's
[00:13:09.200] you know the nicean creed if you're a
[00:13:11.839] christian
[00:13:14.480] uh the the hierarchy of the
[00:13:17.839] of the voodoo if you're a voodoo
[00:13:20.000] practitioner it doesn't make any
[00:13:21.760] difference the
[00:13:23.519] the formulations of religion change
[00:13:26.880] and are different from culture to
[00:13:28.720] culture but fundamentally they're all
[00:13:31.519] about it's all about the same thing it's
[00:13:33.600] about awakening
[00:13:35.440] to this aspect of consciousness
[00:13:38.320] that is normally overpowered by the
[00:13:41.360] sensorial perceptions it's hot it's cold
[00:13:44.959] it's noisy it's quiet um
[00:13:49.360] you know it's bright it's dark what all
[00:13:51.680] those kinds of things
[00:13:53.760] normally most of of our what we call
[00:13:56.880] thinking which isn't really thinking
[00:13:59.120] is driven
[00:14:00.720] by the sensorial impressions of our
[00:14:03.199] neuroanatomy
[00:14:05.199] but when you learn how to attain and
[00:14:07.360] sustain intention-focused awareness and
[00:14:10.639] any there are any number of techniques
[00:14:12.800] for doing that
[00:14:15.440] meditation being probably the the most
[00:14:18.160] general and easiest
[00:14:20.320] um when you do that then all that sense
[00:14:23.040] impression stuff slides into the
[00:14:24.959] background
[00:14:26.160] and you allow yourself to open to the
[00:14:28.399] aspect of consciousness which is eternal
[00:14:31.680] this eternal part of yourself as i say
[00:14:34.079] the soul or the higher self that your
[00:14:36.959] casey called it or
[00:14:38.800] uh the eternal self or whatever
[00:14:41.920] because we are ultimately
[00:14:44.880] expressions of consciousness
[00:14:48.000] the whole principle of what's going on
[00:14:50.320] here i mean i'm one of the people that
[00:14:52.320] created remote viewing
[00:14:54.399] and
[00:14:55.440] i did so i had russ targ and hal put off
[00:15:00.160] jim spotteswood ed may
[00:15:02.800] a little group of guys that created it
[00:15:05.920] we did we started doing this
[00:15:08.639] because at the time we began which is
[00:15:11.360] back in the in my case 1968 in the
[00:15:15.199] case of russ and hal in the early 70s
[00:15:18.480] uh
[00:15:19.600] james about the same time
[00:15:24.160] at that point
[00:15:25.760] people who were doing experiments which
[00:15:28.240] invoked non-local consciousness
[00:15:30.959] were just were reporting what was called
[00:15:33.199] the decline effect that is the more you
[00:15:36.079] did it the worse you got at it so when
[00:15:38.639] you were asking people to
[00:15:40.720] guess cards the center cards or
[00:15:43.839] dice throws or that kind of stuff
[00:15:46.959] it got and the reason that you got worse
[00:15:49.199] at is it was boring
[00:15:51.279] and so you got bored so we wanted to
[00:15:54.000] create a technique
[00:15:56.320] that uh i mean we weren't in together we
[00:15:59.040] did this all independently
[00:16:01.199] but um i mean in my case i started
[00:16:04.480] because of the edgar casey material that
[00:16:06.880] i had spent four years reading
[00:16:09.680] i understood from him
[00:16:12.320] that all the senses report
[00:16:15.120] and that if it was interesting it was
[00:16:18.000] you tended to do better
[00:16:20.480] so in any case we did this because we
[00:16:23.440] wanted to get past the decline effect
[00:16:26.480] we wanted to be able to get better as we
[00:16:29.279] went along with it
[00:16:31.519] and so that's what we did
[00:16:34.160] and
[00:16:35.120] it was the the word remote viewing with
[00:16:37.519] the term was coined by ingo swan
[00:16:40.480] it's a terrible term by the way because
[00:16:42.399] it has nothing to do with remote has
[00:16:44.000] nothing to do with viewing
[00:16:46.160] but that's where our understanding was
[00:16:48.240] in the early 1970s when ingo coined that
[00:16:52.079] i called it distant viewing back in the
[00:16:54.079] 60s that's wrong too because as i said
[00:16:57.839] it has nothing to do with distance
[00:17:00.240] except as an informational component
[00:17:03.279] it's not a limitation it's just as easy
[00:17:05.520] as i said to describe something that's
[00:17:08.079] close or something far away and it's
[00:17:10.000] also
[00:17:10.959] we know from the research that i've done
[00:17:13.439] that it's entirely possible for people
[00:17:15.439] to go back in time thousands of years
[00:17:18.240] and described down to 15 16 of an inch
[00:17:22.079] and that's what you've done
[00:17:24.160] and that's what you've done with these
[00:17:25.360] projects with uh you've done
[00:17:27.120] archaeological digs and discoveries
[00:17:29.760] yeah
[00:17:31.200] we found cleopatra's palace mark
[00:17:33.919] anthony's palace the lighthouse of
[00:17:36.240] pharaohs one of the seven wonders of the
[00:17:38.160] ancient world pompeii's pillar
[00:17:41.280] uh one of christopher columbus's
[00:17:43.360] caravels
[00:17:45.120] yes you're putting up opening to the
[00:17:46.960] infinite opening to the infinite tells
[00:17:49.280] you everything science knows
[00:17:51.440] about remote viewing
[00:17:53.760] okay
[00:17:54.720] and the
[00:17:56.160] the other thing you were talking about
[00:17:57.360] was that was that the project with
[00:17:59.200] alexandria
[00:18:00.480] or um looking for the book here the with
[00:18:03.360] your archaeological projects
[00:18:05.440] well
[00:18:06.960] that's one of the novels awakening which
[00:18:09.520] is about aliens that's everything i know
[00:18:11.440] about aliens and consciousness and i
[00:18:13.840] wrote it as a novel because i couldn't
[00:18:16.320] prove it in an objectively verifiable
[00:18:19.039] way but that's
[00:18:21.120] uh that's all about why we're having
[00:18:23.600] alien contacts and why there's so much
[00:18:26.480] interest in ufos now and
[00:18:29.360] oh wow
[00:18:30.640] so so with with alien uh i didn't know
[00:18:33.520] that there was a that you had any active
[00:18:35.520] projects or
[00:18:36.799] i guess um older projects with with
[00:18:39.280] alien
[00:18:40.480] what would how would you summarize it
[00:18:43.039] why well i got i i got people to do some
[00:18:46.799] remote viewing about this
[00:18:49.039] and i also looked at the way
[00:18:51.520] uh aliens were behaving
[00:18:54.799] and they behave exactly like cultural
[00:18:57.039] anthropologists studying a primitive
[00:18:59.039] culture
[00:19:01.039] if you and and why are they doing it and
[00:19:03.679] i think the answer to that is
[00:19:06.080] because all cultures wherever they are
[00:19:08.720] and there must be thousands of them and
[00:19:10.400] we are certainly not the only sentient
[00:19:12.160] beings
[00:19:14.080] that
[00:19:15.440] they develop technologically and they
[00:19:17.679] get to a point where they can either
[00:19:19.600] destroy themselves or they can awaken to
[00:19:22.559] the fact that consciousness is causal
[00:19:24.640] and fundamental and begin to alter their
[00:19:27.679] technologies and we're at that
[00:19:30.880] we're at that edge of the cliff we're at
[00:19:32.880] the
[00:19:34.080] you know whatever metaphor you want okay
[00:19:36.640] we're at a place where
[00:19:38.559] we're either going to wake up and
[00:19:40.400] understand that we don't have dominion
[00:19:42.400] over the earth we are in fact linked
[00:19:45.039] within a matrix of life in which all
[00:19:48.080] life is interconnected and
[00:19:50.160] interdependent and we're going to begin
[00:19:52.480] to develop our technologies
[00:19:54.960] so that we
[00:19:56.400] support the well-being of the planet
[00:19:59.760] i mean i will tell you
[00:20:01.520] the main thing i have learned from 50
[00:20:03.679] years of research and i've been doing
[00:20:06.000] this since 1968
[00:20:09.520] over 50 years actually
[00:20:12.080] is the key is to support and foster
[00:20:15.679] well-being
[00:20:17.600] whenever you make a choice you want your
[00:20:19.679] choice
[00:20:20.640] to be compassionate life-affirming and
[00:20:23.039] fostering of well-being because that's
[00:20:25.679] the way you create
[00:20:28.159] connect that you support the matrix of
[00:20:30.799] life
[00:20:32.000] and we're at a stage now where we're
[00:20:34.240] either going to destroy ourselves as a
[00:20:36.080] species
[00:20:37.679] or we're going to wake up
[00:20:39.679] and we're going to begin to do things
[00:20:41.840] which support and foster well-being
[00:20:46.000] that's the big takeaway from remote
[00:20:48.720] viewing
[00:20:49.919] so the aliens are essentially
[00:20:51.840] seeing what we do they're just waiting
[00:20:53.520] to see they're just restructuring we're
[00:20:55.120] gonna go
[00:20:55.919] yeah they're watching this just like
[00:20:57.919] when you know anthropologists would go
[00:21:00.159] study a primitive culture i don't know
[00:21:02.240] in new guinea or someplace what would
[00:21:04.480] you do you don't march in you stand you
[00:21:08.320] stay on the periphery
[00:21:10.559] you observe
[00:21:12.240] you bring in
[00:21:14.799] people that they call informants
[00:21:17.280] and you ask them and talk to them about
[00:21:19.120] what's going on or you observe what's
[00:21:21.280] going on
[00:21:23.039] but you don't want to intrude too much
[00:21:25.120] into it because then that distorts the
[00:21:27.200] behavior
[00:21:28.559] and so that's exactly why we're suddenly
[00:21:31.039] seeing
[00:21:32.080] all of these new uh reports that are
[00:21:35.039] coming in about ufos
[00:21:37.679] why is there more because we're at that
[00:21:40.320] tipping point stage and it's not clear
[00:21:43.280] which way we're going to go
[00:21:44.960] and they seem to also i notice there's a
[00:21:47.120] lot of people who do channelings and
[00:21:48.880] they connect even through remote viewing
[00:21:51.039] traditional remote viewing they're able
[00:21:52.960] to have certain dialogues with the
[00:21:54.960] aliens or and and they seem more
[00:21:57.280] advanced like uh remote viewing is where
[00:22:00.159] as you said you know consciousness
[00:22:02.080] perception whatever you want to name it
[00:22:03.679] they're able to they're proficient at it
[00:22:07.200] it would seem
[00:22:08.799] yeah like well because they
[00:22:12.080] anybody that has the ability to travel
[00:22:15.039] through space like that at those
[00:22:17.280] distances
[00:22:18.960] must have
[00:22:20.320] come to a point where they have survived
[00:22:23.280] this tipping point that we now face and
[00:22:26.799] have survived it and prospered
[00:22:29.280] and they're looking at us to see
[00:22:31.760] is humanity going to destroy itself or
[00:22:34.720] is it going to awaken
[00:22:36.880] and the reason that i started doing
[00:22:38.720] these visions of the future project
[00:22:41.760] was that in 1978 when i left government
[00:22:44.799] you know the book you've got up now
[00:22:46.400] secret vaults of time
[00:22:48.159] that's the book that i wrote when i
[00:22:49.919] first began to do this because i wanted
[00:22:52.559] to explore everything that had been done
[00:22:55.120] before my getting involved
[00:22:57.360] at that time i didn't know another
[00:22:59.280] person who did this
[00:23:01.600] so this book that you've got up secret
[00:23:04.000] vaults of time
[00:23:05.280] is the story of all the cases that i
[00:23:08.559] could find of people that used they
[00:23:11.360] didn't call it remote viewing used what
[00:23:13.600] what i would properly call non-local
[00:23:16.000] perception
[00:23:17.840] and how they use that to find
[00:23:19.760] archaeological sites why archaeology
[00:23:23.280] because i wanted to do an experiment
[00:23:25.440] which was unequivocally triple blind
[00:23:28.720] and in which you could establish an
[00:23:30.720] absolutely
[00:23:32.400] unimpeachable chronology of the event
[00:23:35.200] because criticism was oh well you you
[00:23:38.640] know somehow you told them or you cued
[00:23:41.279] them in in some way your facial
[00:23:43.200] expression or
[00:23:44.880] or something you said or so i wanted to
[00:23:48.840] develop a technique
[00:23:51.600] in which
[00:23:52.799] there was absolutely no question that no
[00:23:55.520] one knew the answer
[00:23:57.919] and yet you could get information and
[00:24:00.480] follow it up by field work
[00:24:02.960] and resolve the question
[00:24:05.279] and discover whether in fact it was
[00:24:08.000] objectively verifiably accurate yeah i
[00:24:10.799] mean if you're treasure hunting and you
[00:24:12.480] discovered treasures you obviously have
[00:24:14.559] a good methodology so
[00:24:16.799] i guess that would validate it yeah
[00:24:19.279] well treasure hunting is has problems
[00:24:22.559] because
[00:24:23.760] that the other thing that people don't
[00:24:25.919] seem to get about remote viewing
[00:24:28.559] is that the implication of remote
[00:24:30.720] viewing is there are no secrets
[00:24:33.520] yeah and so if you're
[00:24:36.480] doing if you're doing treasure hunting
[00:24:38.559] as an example
[00:24:41.200] what you stimulate is greed
[00:24:44.880] and because people are greedy
[00:24:48.000] right
[00:24:49.200] and so that distorts
[00:24:51.840] their ability to do the remote viewing
[00:24:55.440] because remote viewing when you'd set up
[00:24:58.159] a remote viewing experiment
[00:25:00.400] both the experimenter whoever's setting
[00:25:02.799] it up
[00:25:03.760] and the people who are providing the
[00:25:05.679] data the remote viewers
[00:25:08.320] they are linked in a kind of bio circuit
[00:25:11.679] in which their intentionality and
[00:25:14.559] attitudes are linked together and the
[00:25:17.279] experimenter is as big
[00:25:19.760] a force to affect the outcome as the
[00:25:22.799] viewer is
[00:25:24.640] because of the creation of the bio
[00:25:26.559] circuit
[00:25:27.679] so you want to be very careful in trying
[00:25:29.760] to do get rich squeak get rich quick
[00:25:34.080] schemes yeah because it stimulates greed
[00:25:38.080] and greed stimulates
[00:25:41.440] secrets and
[00:25:43.360] uh
[00:25:44.320] you know partnerships to you know will
[00:25:46.559] you help me do this and we won't tell
[00:25:48.320] the other people and all that kind of
[00:25:50.400] stuff of course
[00:25:52.320] and so it tears the thing apart
[00:25:54.960] integrity
[00:25:56.400] part of the of the
[00:25:58.400] of what i have learned from doing remote
[00:26:00.480] viewing i mean all of this doesn't seem
[00:26:02.480] to be about remote viewing but it is is
[00:26:05.200] that integrity is absolutely essential
[00:26:11.120] you must be 100
[00:26:13.919] in public who you are in private
[00:26:18.159] so how does this all tie into for
[00:26:20.320] instance the project that you're doing
[00:26:22.080] with viewing 2060 i know you were doing
[00:26:24.880] 2050 for a very long time and you've had
[00:26:27.679] success
[00:26:29.039] over the years because you've seen it
[00:26:30.559] manifest over time and i've and i've
[00:26:32.480] watched that
[00:26:33.600] and um and i'm also curious because i
[00:26:35.520] know you've mentioned aids in in the
[00:26:38.480] other video and you've you've seen how
[00:26:40.559] how that came to progress and then how
[00:26:42.960] the
[00:26:43.840] the the social changes that we see today
[00:26:46.720] but where did you by any chance did you
[00:26:48.640] catch the 2020 madness did that come up
[00:26:52.080] when you're reviewing 2050
[00:26:55.440] 2012 i don't know what 20 20 madness
[00:26:58.000] well
[00:26:59.039] unfortunately we have to use keywords
[00:27:01.200] here i can't i can't use i don't know
[00:27:03.039] what youtube restricts now
[00:27:05.360] whenever you bring up but you know 2020
[00:27:09.360] i guess politically
[00:27:11.440] that the pandemic everything that's that
[00:27:13.840] oh yes absolutely
[00:27:15.679] yes
[00:27:17.760] in fact i will i will tell you a very
[00:27:19.840] specific story okay when i looked at the
[00:27:23.760] 2015 well let me tell you why i began
[00:27:26.399] doing this also okay
[00:27:29.120] i was in government i was a special
[00:27:31.679] assistant for research and analysis to
[00:27:34.080] the chief of naval operations two of
[00:27:36.399] them actually
[00:27:37.760] one admiral zumwalt and admiral holloway
[00:27:40.880] and i was also asked to serve on
[00:27:44.000] the
[00:27:44.720] secretary of defense massachusetts
[00:27:47.279] institute of technology
[00:27:49.279] working study group on innovation
[00:27:51.679] technology in the future
[00:27:53.679] and also the smithsonian
[00:27:56.159] study group on innovation technology in
[00:27:58.399] the future
[00:28:00.559] so i was and i held class i held a
[00:28:04.880] security clearances
[00:28:07.039] um
[00:28:08.399] at a fairly high level
[00:28:10.399] quite high level
[00:28:12.559] and i came away
[00:28:14.320] in 19 when i left government in 1976
[00:28:18.320] i came away convinced we were going to
[00:28:20.000] have a nuclear war
[00:28:22.880] and in fact were it not for one soviet
[00:28:25.600] colonel who didn't push the button
[00:28:29.120] when he was told to do so we would have
[00:28:31.039] had world war iii
[00:28:33.760] and we would all this would all be a
[00:28:35.679] very very different world
[00:28:38.480] he didn't do it but in any case i was
[00:28:41.120] convinced as were most people in the
[00:28:43.120] geopolitical world who had access to the
[00:28:46.159] kind of information i had access to
[00:28:48.720] that we were very likely to have a
[00:28:50.720] nuclear war either by mistake
[00:28:54.000] somebody doing something stupid
[00:28:56.640] or because of intention
[00:29:00.399] and um i mean you know you see putin
[00:29:02.559] currently threatening nuclear war right
[00:29:06.320] so
[00:29:07.520] i thought well this is going to happen
[00:29:09.279] and i'd like to know i you know i was
[00:29:11.120] married i had a child and and i thought
[00:29:14.000] well i'd like to know when this is
[00:29:15.600] likely to happen and so i started doing
[00:29:18.559] uh because as i said i'm one of the
[00:29:20.159] people who created remote viewing
[00:29:23.279] and i thought well i'll i'll use this
[00:29:25.919] technique
[00:29:27.279] to see what the future looks like and is
[00:29:29.279] my daughter
[00:29:30.799] going to be okay
[00:29:33.200] so i started getting people to remove
[00:29:35.360] you and i didn't want to go too far into
[00:29:37.120] the future
[00:29:39.440] because i had just recently at that time
[00:29:42.720] discovered
[00:29:44.080] that jules verne who wrote twenty
[00:29:46.080] thousand leagues under the sea
[00:29:48.720] had also written a novel
[00:29:50.880] about a basically a remote viewing novel
[00:29:54.559] of paris in the 1960s
[00:29:57.279] in which he had said
[00:29:59.760] that this was in the 1850s
[00:30:02.720] he said paris was uh the economy was
[00:30:06.080] controlled by corporations
[00:30:08.480] which didn't exist at that time
[00:30:11.039] 1850s
[00:30:13.279] that women worked in corporations
[00:30:15.919] unheard of at that time
[00:30:18.960] that there was no longer horse-drawn
[00:30:21.360] traffic it was done by internal
[00:30:23.360] combustion machines
[00:30:25.440] and that people sent in the 1960s they
[00:30:28.640] sent their business correspondence over
[00:30:31.600] this is really unusual facsimile
[00:30:34.640] machines
[00:30:36.399] now think about that
[00:30:38.559] he wrote this in 1850
[00:30:41.360] in the 1850s
[00:30:43.760] and he sent it to his editor he had just
[00:30:45.840] published 20 000 leagues under the sea
[00:30:48.159] which was a huge success
[00:30:50.960] and his editor wrote him back and said
[00:30:53.200] jules
[00:30:54.799] i got your new novel
[00:30:58.480] i'm not going to publish it
[00:31:00.799] it's so weird nobody would believe it it
[00:31:03.679] will destroy your reputation i suggest
[00:31:06.960] you just put it away and forget about it
[00:31:09.760] and that's what he did women women
[00:31:11.440] working
[00:31:14.320] internal combustion machines and
[00:31:16.480] facsimile machines oh and he said also
[00:31:19.840] that paris
[00:31:21.760] was now the central
[00:31:24.559] sort of image of paris was a tall
[00:31:27.840] metal tower
[00:31:29.440] the eiffel tower which did not exist at
[00:31:32.000] that time
[00:31:33.919] and it just sound crazy to his editor
[00:31:37.039] so he literally put it away
[00:31:39.760] he put it in a vault
[00:31:41.760] in a little safe
[00:31:43.600] and years later uh in the 1960s
[00:31:48.720] uh
[00:31:49.679] as
[00:31:50.559] the person that inherited the
[00:31:53.360] farm that he had owned
[00:31:56.159] went out to the farm and underneath he
[00:31:58.559] saw this little safe and he said to the
[00:32:01.279] tenant farmer who looked after the land
[00:32:04.080] what's in the safe and the guy said well
[00:32:05.840] i've no idea nobody's ever opened it my
[00:32:08.640] father didn't open it i've never opened
[00:32:10.640] it
[00:32:11.679] so he had a
[00:32:13.360] locksmith come out and open the safe up
[00:32:15.760] and he found this manuscript about paris
[00:32:18.559] in the 1960s
[00:32:20.799] and i read this it's a
[00:32:22.880] he published the book
[00:32:24.880] and his commentary about how the whole
[00:32:26.960] story i just told you
[00:32:29.039] and i realized that if i went too far
[00:32:31.279] into the future i wouldn't understand
[00:32:32.880] what they were going to say i mean
[00:32:35.519] for instance if in the 19
[00:32:39.679] i don't know in the 1950
[00:32:43.200] i had told you you could wear something
[00:32:45.279] on your wrist which would allow you to
[00:32:47.919] to contact anybody on earth practically
[00:32:50.799] and and get all the news that was going
[00:32:53.279] on
[00:32:54.559] um
[00:32:55.440] i mean you just thought i was crazy so i
[00:32:57.279] didn't want to go too far in the future
[00:32:58.880] and 2050 seemed like a
[00:33:01.840] it wouldn't change so much
[00:33:03.840] i looked 50 years earlier and thought
[00:33:06.480] okay well if somebody told me something
[00:33:08.559] 50 years earlier
[00:33:10.399] about
[00:33:11.880] 2078 when i began this
[00:33:15.679] i'd still understand what they were
[00:33:17.679] saying
[00:33:19.279] and so i began interviewing people
[00:33:23.360] and one of the first things i asked them
[00:33:25.360] was
[00:33:28.159] has there been a nuclear war
[00:33:31.679] and
[00:33:32.640] because as i said i was very concerned
[00:33:34.720] about that and they said no
[00:33:37.519] and i said well then is the world safer
[00:33:41.039] because i thought well if there's not a
[00:33:42.240] nuclear war the world must be safer
[00:33:44.399] right
[00:33:45.679] and they said oh no the world is much
[00:33:47.679] more dangerous
[00:33:49.840] and i said why and they said because of
[00:33:52.960] terrorism
[00:33:54.960] and in 1978 the only terrorism that was
[00:33:58.000] going on that anybody paid any attention
[00:34:00.080] to
[00:34:00.960] was the was the fight between the roman
[00:34:03.519] catholics and the protestants in ireland
[00:34:07.120] and uh iras
[00:34:09.599] uh
[00:34:10.399] you know terrorist activities
[00:34:14.000] so terrorism how could the world be less
[00:34:16.960] safe because of terrorism but of course
[00:34:19.280] now it's you know obviously the world is
[00:34:21.919] left safe because of terrorism so then i
[00:34:24.639] i would say
[00:34:26.480] i said things like well
[00:34:29.599] tell me about health care
[00:34:32.000] and i was worried about that because
[00:34:34.480] at that point um i had a handicapped
[00:34:37.440] brother i took care of
[00:34:41.200] had all kinds of medical problems and i
[00:34:43.599] was looking after him
[00:34:46.000] and so i said well tell me about health
[00:34:47.679] care and they said
[00:34:49.359] oh well it's completely different
[00:34:52.240] and i said well there are people
[00:34:54.159] healthier and they said
[00:34:56.000] well
[00:34:57.200] yes and no i said what do you mean and
[00:34:59.520] they said well there are these pandemics
[00:35:02.160] i said pandemics what do you mean
[00:35:05.599] well they're you know they're all these
[00:35:07.760] pandemics and they kill millions of
[00:35:09.440] people and i said well
[00:35:10.960] i don't know tell me about them and they
[00:35:12.480] said well
[00:35:14.000] this is again consensus the first one is
[00:35:17.440] a blood disease which crosses over from
[00:35:19.760] primates to humans
[00:35:22.000] and spreads all over the world and kills
[00:35:23.920] millions of people
[00:35:25.920] so i went to a friend of mine who was
[00:35:27.760] the deputy director of national
[00:35:29.760] institutes of health
[00:35:31.440] and said to do you know anything about a
[00:35:33.200] blood disease that crosses over from
[00:35:35.040] primates to humans
[00:35:37.040] that could kill millions of people
[00:35:39.520] this is 1978-79
[00:35:43.760] and his answer to me was i don't know
[00:35:45.760] what it is you're smoking but quit
[00:35:49.280] because that no i don't know anything
[00:35:51.200] about that that's just crazy talk
[00:35:53.680] and then of course in 1981
[00:35:56.079] aids emerges crosses over from primates
[00:35:59.280] to humans and it eventually kills 35
[00:36:02.079] million people
[00:36:04.000] then comes sars then h1 h5n1
[00:36:08.400] and now we're doing covet and they're
[00:36:10.720] going to be others because
[00:36:12.480] as climate change goes on viruses and
[00:36:14.960] bacteria are going to mutate
[00:36:17.200] to accommodate the new circumstances of
[00:36:19.520] their lives
[00:36:20.880] and uh we're going to have more
[00:36:22.320] pandemics
[00:36:23.760] it's true but i would say that 2020 was
[00:36:25.839] especially a marker
[00:36:27.599] in human history it almost would seem
[00:36:30.560] like there was
[00:36:32.079] um political tension there were riots in
[00:36:34.320] the street it was it was it just stood
[00:36:36.640] out and of course the lockdowns
[00:36:38.640] and i couldn't help but think if you
[00:36:40.160] were viewing the future with all these
[00:36:42.240] people that they wouldn't mention
[00:36:44.400] you know if it was somewhat predicted at
[00:36:47.920] some level that's what i was driving oh
[00:36:50.079] well they i mean they did yeah that only
[00:36:52.400] i didn't ask the question that way so of
[00:36:54.400] course i wouldn't get that kind of
[00:36:55.760] answer right i didn't say you know what
[00:36:57.839] happened in 2020 right if i'd asked that
[00:37:00.560] then i would have gotten different i
[00:37:02.079] asked for 2050
[00:37:04.000] but what they did say to me was
[00:37:06.560] i said well look at the united states
[00:37:08.640] and
[00:37:09.359] you know tell me about the united states
[00:37:11.040] does it still exist
[00:37:13.680] and they said well inform yes
[00:37:17.599] but real power has devolved down to the
[00:37:21.119] states and groups of states because
[00:37:23.760] there is what i now call the great
[00:37:25.680] schism trend
[00:37:27.280] the the split between the red states and
[00:37:29.839] the blue states
[00:37:31.200] and i just read a paper this morning
[00:37:34.160] that um
[00:37:35.359] most republicans living in blue states
[00:37:38.240] would like to see succession that is
[00:37:40.640] they would like to have their their re
[00:37:42.880] not blue states red states they would
[00:37:45.119] like to have their red states succeed
[00:37:47.280] from the union
[00:37:49.200] so i think that what the remote viewers
[00:37:51.359] described which was
[00:37:53.119] that the idea that the united states and
[00:37:56.400] form still existed by which i think they
[00:37:59.440] mean there's a senate there's a house
[00:38:01.680] there's a president there's a supreme
[00:38:04.480] court but that real power has resolved
[00:38:07.280] down to the senate down to the states
[00:38:10.320] because what's happening in the united
[00:38:12.079] states
[00:38:13.119] is that
[00:38:14.320] the red states and the blue states are
[00:38:16.839] schisming are going very different
[00:38:19.760] directions look at what's happening with
[00:38:22.000] the overturn of roe
[00:38:24.079] for instance
[00:38:25.680] right
[00:38:27.200] and that's going to have huge
[00:38:28.880] implications
[00:38:30.560] and they told me that they said well you
[00:38:32.560] know
[00:38:33.280] um
[00:38:34.240] in some places healthcare is much better
[00:38:37.760] and in other places it's not good
[00:38:40.400] and of course that's exactly what we're
[00:38:42.079] going to see with the roe v wade
[00:38:43.680] business because if you're a young
[00:38:46.079] doctor or you're an ob gyn who just gets
[00:38:48.960] out of their residency are you going to
[00:38:50.960] go to a red state where you could be put
[00:38:53.119] in prison for even mentioning to a woman
[00:38:55.920] that that she might get an abortion or
[00:38:58.880] that she's going to need an abortion
[00:39:00.800] because her pregnancy threatens her life
[00:39:02.960] or because a ten-year-old child
[00:39:05.920] actually she was nine
[00:39:07.839] was raped and is now pregnant
[00:39:10.800] i mean look at what this has happened to
[00:39:13.280] this doctor in indiana that actually did
[00:39:15.839] the abortion on this 10 year old girl
[00:39:18.400] you know she's got threats people
[00:39:20.400] threatening to kidnap her killer
[00:39:23.040] so
[00:39:24.640] exactly what the remote viewers
[00:39:26.240] described the states are splitting
[00:39:29.119] into very different cultures
[00:39:32.320] sure um
[00:39:33.680] and so
[00:39:34.800] the 2050s uh
[00:39:36.960] described this in detail
[00:39:39.200] and then in 1991
[00:39:44.079] i i kept going from 2050 from 78 to 91
[00:39:48.720] and then in 2018
[00:39:50.880] i decided i would pick it up again
[00:39:54.079] because i also wanted to answer a
[00:39:55.920] question that nobody's ever been able to
[00:39:57.760] answer in remote viewing
[00:40:00.240] and that is if someone describes the
[00:40:02.320] future
[00:40:04.079] are they describing a fixed future
[00:40:06.880] or are they describing the highest
[00:40:08.800] probability
[00:40:10.640] event
[00:40:12.000] at the time you're asking the question
[00:40:14.800] that is is it fixed
[00:40:16.800] or is it the a probability and so i
[00:40:20.000] thought if i compare the 2050 data with
[00:40:22.319] the 2060 data
[00:40:24.400] i will be able to answer that question
[00:40:26.480] and that's exactly what i'm doing
[00:40:29.119] so that that's an ongoing answer then
[00:40:30.880] right i don't know the answer yet okay
[00:40:33.599] have you uh
[00:40:34.800] seen anything with uh genetic
[00:40:36.839] modification oh absolutely why i've
[00:40:39.839] written about this at length i
[00:40:42.160] one of the things that concerns me
[00:40:44.960] is the crispr technology that genetic
[00:40:47.680] engineering technology
[00:40:49.599] is creating um and it's going to involve
[00:40:52.400] rich people first because it's going to
[00:40:53.839] be expensive
[00:40:55.119] is going to create another human species
[00:40:58.400] homo superior
[00:41:00.960] and and
[00:41:02.480] it is not at all clear to me
[00:41:04.960] and i don't know the answer to this yet
[00:41:07.760] but i have you i can already see it
[00:41:10.000] happening
[00:41:11.680] particularly in in china
[00:41:14.800] and in asia where they don't have the
[00:41:16.960] same
[00:41:19.280] cultural limitations about culture about
[00:41:22.800] genetic engineering
[00:41:24.880] you know if you could create a child
[00:41:27.280] that was
[00:41:28.400] as smart as einstein and as athletic as
[00:41:31.520] i don't know michael jordan
[00:41:34.079] and that wouldn't get cancer or heart
[00:41:36.480] disease
[00:41:37.599] because they'd been genetically
[00:41:39.040] engineered as homo superior
[00:41:43.440] what would happen
[00:41:45.040] if there were
[00:41:46.400] if there was another
[00:41:48.800] sp sub or another species of human
[00:41:52.960] would they be dominant and would homo
[00:41:55.839] homo sapien be subordinate would they
[00:41:58.480] become the sort of
[00:42:00.839] uh
[00:42:02.480] peasant servants of the homo superiors i
[00:42:05.839] mean if you look at
[00:42:07.280] if you look at what has been done in the
[00:42:09.119] united states about wealth inequality
[00:42:12.000] which the remote viewers talked about
[00:42:15.839] mean we have four people that can run
[00:42:17.599] their own space programs and one out of
[00:42:20.480] seven children doesn't have enough to
[00:42:22.560] eat
[00:42:24.000] so we have this
[00:42:25.839] this obscene wealth inequality
[00:42:30.560] and if those
[00:42:32.400] four
[00:42:33.440] wealthy people could engineer their
[00:42:35.359] children so that they didn't get any of
[00:42:37.680] these heart disease cancer whatever
[00:42:41.359] and they had iqs of 170
[00:42:44.800] and they were hugely athletic
[00:42:48.000] what would be the effect of that
[00:42:52.079] i suppose it would be unfair but you
[00:42:54.240] know for the sake of progression human
[00:42:56.240] progression
[00:42:57.520] you know you'd kind of want to see
[00:43:00.319] a better human emerge but you know not
[00:43:02.560] at the sacrament i mean
[00:43:04.079] i guess we would be the the neanderthals
[00:43:06.880] in this storyline right so
[00:43:09.359] you know it's like obviously the hu this
[00:43:11.680] it's sad they're no longer around but
[00:43:13.359] you want
[00:43:14.400] obviously the homo sapiens to prevail
[00:43:17.200] because we are homo sapiens you know but
[00:43:19.359] well except that if the hobo superior
[00:43:22.560] became the dominant controlling species
[00:43:25.200] we are already at a place where we are
[00:43:27.839] becoming an oligarchy i mean the united
[00:43:30.720] states is becoming an anocracy that's a
[00:43:33.599] a democracy is it appears like a
[00:43:35.680] democracy because it has voting but in
[00:43:38.240] fact it's all rigged and controlled by a
[00:43:41.040] small group of people
[00:43:44.160] if that were to happen and it were to
[00:43:46.240] happen
[00:43:47.200] and homo superior were to be driving it
[00:43:52.160] yes it would be very much like the
[00:43:54.000] neanderthal
[00:43:55.359] uh or the denisovians and homo sapiens i
[00:43:59.119] mean
[00:43:59.920] we have
[00:44:01.280] uh a number of genes which come from
[00:44:03.839] neanderthal so there was interbreeding
[00:44:06.800] right
[00:44:07.680] but you don't see neanderthal anymore
[00:44:10.400] you don't see the soviets anymore
[00:44:13.680] and so what happens to homo sapien if
[00:44:16.480] the crispr technology allows the genetic
[00:44:19.200] manipulation to create homo superior and
[00:44:22.480] it becomes
[00:44:23.599] and you it's gene lining that is it gets
[00:44:26.160] passed on from generation to generation
[00:44:28.640] so but it's superior was that mentioned
[00:44:31.280] in the remote viewing or was it this
[00:44:32.880] described and like there's like a new
[00:44:35.680] genetic modification it's coming
[00:44:38.240] well they describe
[00:44:39.760] yeah they describe genetic manipulation
[00:44:42.880] and what did they describe the
[00:44:44.319] unfairness of it
[00:44:47.119] i i i i when i was asking in 1978 it it
[00:44:51.440] didn't even occur to me to ask that
[00:44:52.960] question
[00:44:54.240] all right so i'm going to have to i'm
[00:44:56.560] going to do another
[00:44:58.480] this project isn't over i'm going to be
[00:45:00.319] doing more remote viewing uh of the
[00:45:03.119] future and i'm going to be asking a
[00:45:05.359] different set of questions
[00:45:07.359] and is this what you put out on i
[00:45:09.040] noticed that a lot of this content is
[00:45:10.880] not in your books is this what you put
[00:45:12.400] out on the schwartz report
[00:45:14.240] uh the schwartz report is all about uh
[00:45:17.200] www.schwartzreport.net.net
[00:45:20.240] is um is all about trends which are
[00:45:22.720] shaping the future and yes i cover all
[00:45:25.040] of this
[00:45:26.079] okay and i'll put the link to that down
[00:45:28.560] below
[00:45:29.440] so
[00:45:30.319] so you i'm gonna write a book about i'm
[00:45:32.880] gonna i'm actually in the process
[00:45:35.359] as i'm analyzing the data i'm also
[00:45:37.520] laying out a book and i'm gonna write a
[00:45:39.599] book called visions of the future
[00:45:43.599] is this the book that i have on the
[00:45:45.040] screen here no that vision
[00:45:47.839] that is a book about a remote viewing
[00:45:50.240] project
[00:45:51.760] that saves the destruction of washington
[00:45:54.480] d.c
[00:45:55.680] ah okay and it is
[00:45:57.760] true
[00:45:59.200] well it's based on some actual facts
[00:46:02.960] okay
[00:46:04.000] all right very good
[00:46:05.680] yeah you you crank out a lot of books it
[00:46:08.000] was hard to find the one i was
[00:46:09.760] referencing the alexandria project
[00:46:12.480] and i saw you have
[00:46:14.480] a ton of books out so i do and you can
[00:46:17.839] also
[00:46:18.720] you can go to academia.edu
[00:46:22.079] and you can get all my papers there's
[00:46:23.839] hundreds of them
[00:46:25.280] and you can go to youtube and search on
[00:46:27.440] my name and there are hundreds of
[00:46:28.960] interviews
[00:46:30.720] and but yeah i mean and i i was
[00:46:32.960] listening to a bunch of them before we
[00:46:34.319] did this one and um i i got to tell you
[00:46:37.119] people love the projects that you have
[00:46:39.040] going on the the future the future
[00:46:41.200] projects they love the old ones
[00:46:43.680] um so the the way they would get access
[00:46:46.160] to that is the most directly is through
[00:46:48.400] the reports through the schwartz report
[00:46:50.560] go to schwartz report you go to my
[00:46:52.400] personal website www stephanie
[00:46:55.359] schwartz.com
[00:46:57.520] uh you look at my books yes i've been
[00:47:00.640] covering this
[00:47:01.920] and i'm now getting increased because i
[00:47:04.000] am very concerned about what's going on
[00:47:06.079] today
[00:47:07.200] uh i am increasingly focusing on
[00:47:11.680] these trends that are shaping the future
[00:47:14.800] and i'm going to put all this data
[00:47:16.480] together and as i say put it into a book
[00:47:20.079] which i will be publishing
[00:47:22.000] well it takes me about eight months to
[00:47:23.839] write a book so probably sometime in
[00:47:26.160] 2023.
[00:47:28.160] all right sounds good
[00:47:30.079] well stefan it was uh an amazing
[00:47:32.240] discussion with you and one of my
[00:47:33.839] favorite topics
[00:47:35.280] so and i hope i'm gonna put this up on
[00:47:37.119] youtube so other people can enjoy it and
[00:47:39.440] they have your website um and they can
[00:47:42.000] does it cost money at the schwartz
[00:47:43.520] report dot no i i give it away
[00:47:46.480] all right very good i'll put the links
[00:47:48.160] in the description below and uh thank
[00:47:50.480] you stefan i appreciate it my pleasure
[00:47:53.200] you have a good day stay safe and well
[00:47:55.760] you too you too thank you sir thank you
[00:47:59.119] just a quick plug our app is now live in
[00:48:02.480] the play store in the app store you can
[00:48:04.319] get it in the description below i put
[00:48:06.000] all the details in there
[00:48:07.599] thanks