UAP Podcast - "The Laura Eisenhower Interview - Lies About a Hidden Past & Present Day Deceptions"

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• Published: 2026-08-12
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[00:00:01.280] Well, welcome in here to UAP. Happy to
[00:00:03.679] bring in today. Uh someone that I've
[00:00:06.080] been talking about on the show, someone
[00:00:07.680] that uh I've been looking forward to
[00:00:09.920] speaking to with for a while, and that
[00:00:11.360] is Laura Eisenhower. Laura, thanks so
[00:00:13.200] much for coming on here to UAP. Been
[00:00:16.160] looking forward to this. So, I
[00:00:17.199] appreciate you making time to come on
[00:00:18.240] the show today.
[00:00:19.119] >> Well, thank you for inviting me. Good to
[00:00:20.480] be here.
[00:00:21.279] >> Yeah, absolutely. So, I know you know,
[00:00:24.240] listen, I'm not going to beat around the
[00:00:25.600] bush. Obviously, when people see you at
[00:00:29.119] uh different conferences or webinars or
[00:00:31.439] they see you on social media, they know,
[00:00:33.600] of course, that you are the
[00:00:35.200] great-granddaughter of President
[00:00:36.239] Eisenhower. So, when they think about
[00:00:38.640] that and they think about all the things
[00:00:40.320] that have gone on since his presidency,
[00:00:44.000] um I'd like to start there if that's
[00:00:45.680] okay.
[00:00:46.399] >> Sure. Um, and one of the things that I
[00:00:50.320] really kind of dug into when I started
[00:00:53.280] this this show five years ago now, one
[00:00:55.920] of the things that really uh intrigued
[00:00:58.079] me at the start of it was the story of
[00:01:00.960] President Eisenhower and the so-called
[00:01:03.600] meeting with the Grays. I found that
[00:01:05.199] very fascinating. I've done some work
[00:01:07.280] digging into that over time and speaking
[00:01:08.880] to different authors and filmmakers who
[00:01:10.560] have done work on it. But now I get to
[00:01:12.720] ask you about it. So, when it comes to
[00:01:14.960] that story, there's so much lore.
[00:01:16.799] There's so much legend to it. What can
[00:01:19.600] you tell us about that story and the
[00:01:22.960] facts that you know from your family?
[00:01:25.680] >> Well, I don't really know facts from my
[00:01:27.200] family. It wasn't something we really
[00:01:28.799] talked about. I think everything had to
[00:01:30.799] skip a generation. These uh kind of
[00:01:34.720] topics were very hush hush back then.
[00:01:37.520] And it wasn't that Eisenhower didn't
[00:01:38.880] want to disclose it. It was because of
[00:01:42.000] the threats. um the hidden covert kind
[00:01:46.880] of takeover of the United States. Uh
[00:01:49.439] people hear about Roswell, Project
[00:01:51.840] Paperclip, Admiral Bird's expedition in
[00:01:54.240] 1947, big year, 1947, an expedition that
[00:01:57.920] you know pretty much failed. And uh but
[00:02:00.399] we don't really hear about what happened
[00:02:02.159] in 1952 under Truman or the fact that in
[00:02:04.880] 1947 there was some sort of agreement uh
[00:02:07.520] or treaty that Truman might have signed.
[00:02:10.160] Uh, Captain Mark Richards talks about
[00:02:12.319] this. Um, Carrie Cassidy has written
[00:02:15.280] some books uh about these conversations
[00:02:18.319] with him. He also shares about him
[00:02:21.520] wanting to take out the grays and Draco
[00:02:23.680] at the Doulce underground base in 1954,
[00:02:27.040] the same year that he's blamed for
[00:02:28.319] signing treaties. Dan Cooper, also a
[00:02:31.599] very credible person who talks about
[00:02:34.319] Eisenhower ordering an invasion on Dulce
[00:02:37.440] underground base. So when it comes to
[00:02:40.640] this treaty, you know, I had an open
[00:02:42.720] mind to it for a long time. There are
[00:02:44.800] some sound bites that have been
[00:02:45.840] circulating saying that I validate the
[00:02:48.239] story. I think they definitely uh cut it
[00:02:50.720] up and made it look like that because
[00:02:52.560] I've never flat out said I agree or I
[00:02:55.200] think it happened. I wasn't there. If I
[00:02:57.200] were to have said anything, I would
[00:02:58.720] think that I would say allegedly. But uh
[00:03:01.360] I I guess yeah uh years ago when I first
[00:03:03.760] became a public person, I was bringing
[00:03:05.200] this topic to light and I was
[00:03:06.480] open-minded to the fact that that might
[00:03:07.920] have taken place. Well, over the course
[00:03:10.080] of the last six to 10 years, I've been
[00:03:13.519] shown a very very different um history.
[00:03:16.720] And I don't just go by what I hear, I
[00:03:19.120] investigate, right? Um and I look into
[00:03:22.080] the people that are making the claims.
[00:03:24.239] Uh and and one of the things that really
[00:03:26.000] stands out is you know there there have
[00:03:27.840] been a lot of attempts to get
[00:03:29.840] information freedom of information act
[00:03:32.159] uh people digging really deep into you
[00:03:34.640] know whistleblower testimony and it's
[00:03:36.640] come up that a lot of what was actually
[00:03:39.280] shared there's no credible witnesses um
[00:03:42.159] Gerald Light did not say that there was
[00:03:44.159] a treaty that was signed and when you
[00:03:45.920] look at all the different uh individuals
[00:03:48.400] that have spoken about it and you
[00:03:50.720] actually ask the questions well where
[00:03:52.879] did they really get it were they um is
[00:03:54.959] there a document? Uh what sort of uh
[00:03:57.760] factual information do they have to back
[00:04:00.239] it up? There really isn't any. But I
[00:04:02.000] think we know in this field is very very
[00:04:03.439] hard to get any factual information. Um
[00:04:06.080] but let me just share really quick. Dan
[00:04:08.720] Cooper, who I've been talking to
[00:04:10.720] recently, is a physicist. He knows, you
[00:04:15.680] know, admirals and generals and he uh
[00:04:20.239] served in a 20 back. So a lot of his
[00:04:22.079] commanding officers, Nazi commanding
[00:04:23.600] officers gave him this information or
[00:04:25.120] they were bragging about it. Um he's
[00:04:27.520] really got firsthand information and uh
[00:04:30.639] he's a physicist on the level of um you
[00:04:34.000] know discovering the sixth to eighth
[00:04:35.840] force you know Tesla type technology
[00:04:38.560] >> and he was imprisoned by the
[00:04:40.000] three-letter organizations for 18 years
[00:04:42.479] against his will. So, you know, these
[00:04:45.360] kind of um credible
[00:04:48.320] people uh I I've been looking into
[00:04:52.000] William Cooper who was one of the main
[00:04:53.840] sources of information for people who
[00:04:55.759] wrote Beyond a Pale horse. He even
[00:04:57.759] admitted later on that what he was given
[00:05:01.360] was disinformation that he never
[00:05:03.600] believed that documents that were going
[00:05:05.600] to be placed in front of him would be
[00:05:08.240] potentially um fabricated. And uh later
[00:05:13.199] on he actually admitted that he had been
[00:05:15.680] lied to and he had been used. And he
[00:05:17.680] started to expose the fact that this
[00:05:19.840] technology was not what we thought. It
[00:05:22.400] was connected to the Nazis in Germany.
[00:05:25.360] And uh when he really began to expose
[00:05:27.360] that he felt that he was used and lied
[00:05:29.039] to, he got killed pretty soon after. I'm
[00:05:32.160] not saying it's directly related. I
[00:05:33.759] don't want to make those assumptions,
[00:05:34.800] but he even came clean. So, I see a lot
[00:05:37.520] of people quoting William Cooper and the
[00:05:40.800] rest of the information that a person um
[00:05:44.400] is
[00:05:46.560] providing or or falling back on for
[00:05:48.800] information about this is is really not
[00:05:50.720] very credible. So, this whole dentist
[00:05:53.120] appointment thing, right? First of all,
[00:05:54.960] any uh story you hear about this, you're
[00:05:57.680] never going to see a consistency.
[00:05:59.919] Everybody is sharing something
[00:06:00.880] different. 1954, first the Nordics. Some
[00:06:03.039] people say that particular date in
[00:06:04.960] February 1954, I think the 20th of
[00:06:07.600] February, was the the meeting with the
[00:06:09.919] Grace. So, it's not consistent. The
[00:06:12.000] amount of time he was gone is not
[00:06:13.360] consistent. The fact that he did have an
[00:06:15.680] ongoing dental issue um is something to
[00:06:18.479] think about. And also, how long it takes
[00:06:20.639] to travel from the ranch he was at all
[00:06:22.639] the way to Edwards Air Force Base. Um I
[00:06:24.880] think that one was Edward's Air Force
[00:06:26.479] Base. Anyway, the amount of time that he
[00:06:28.960] was not accounted for uh is not a very
[00:06:32.160] long amount of time and it takes a lot
[00:06:34.639] to go all the way somewhere. There would
[00:06:37.280] be some sort of trail of maybe a Secret
[00:06:38.880] Service driver. There would be some kind
[00:06:40.479] of deathbed confessions, you would
[00:06:41.840] think. And instead we find people
[00:06:44.479] changing the story or sharing more in
[00:06:47.440] their deathbed confessions like uh
[00:06:49.840] anonymous that Richard Dolan interviewed
[00:06:51.520] said that Eisenhower was furious and
[00:06:54.479] wanted to invade Area 51 but he was shut
[00:06:57.199] down because you know basically it's
[00:06:59.120] like a government unto itself. Um so the
[00:07:02.000] Doulce uh invasion he ordered in 1954
[00:07:05.599] later on threatening to invade Area 51
[00:07:08.240] his relationship with Val Thor. this
[00:07:10.240] doesn't sound like a guy that would have
[00:07:11.680] signed treaties and if he did he
[00:07:14.720] definitely wasn't aligning um with them
[00:07:18.160] and and after 1952 we supposedly
[00:07:21.039] surrendered to the interplanetary
[00:07:22.639] corporate conglomerate Nazi Draco
[00:07:24.400] alliance so when we think of projects
[00:07:26.240] like Montalk Philadelphia experiment
[00:07:29.039] >> um uh that happened you know previous
[00:07:33.520] and just the chain of events that led to
[00:07:35.360] this sort of takeover and MK Ultra
[00:07:38.160] social engineering indoctrin ation,
[00:07:40.160] chemtrails, geoengineering. It's pretty
[00:07:42.319] obvious that we didn't really win the
[00:07:44.000] war. And I really feel that a lot is a
[00:07:46.720] front and false narratives that uh have
[00:07:49.680] been engineered in order to hide what is
[00:07:52.479] actually truly happening. So, I'll kind
[00:07:54.720] of leave that. Yeah.
[00:07:56.240] >> Yeah. Wow. Um, so obviously there's a
[00:07:58.319] lot to pick up on there. I guess first
[00:08:00.080] off, uh, you you mentioned like four or
[00:08:02.800] five things that I want to follow up on
[00:08:04.879] because there were things that I had in
[00:08:06.000] my mind that you went ahead and
[00:08:07.039] mentioned. Um, first off being just just
[00:08:10.000] so everyone's clear, you're saying that
[00:08:12.879] there is in your knowledge there's no
[00:08:15.520] definitive proof that you can say just
[00:08:17.919] to start off on the basic there that you
[00:08:19.440] can say that the meeting itself took
[00:08:21.280] place between President Eisenhower and
[00:08:23.520] the Grays or the Nordics. Can we say
[00:08:25.120] that it did or can we say that it maybe
[00:08:26.960] did or probably didn't? I mean, what
[00:08:28.639] would just on that basic knowledge?
[00:08:32.640] >> Well, everybody's kind of coming at uh
[00:08:34.640] it from this angle. guilty before being
[00:08:38.560] innocent, right? Instead of innocent uh
[00:08:40.719] until proven guilty. There is no proof.
[00:08:43.200] You know, you can't just ha I mean, we
[00:08:44.959] could spin any story, write any kind of
[00:08:46.640] letter, have it passed down a couple
[00:08:49.760] generations, and then all all of a
[00:08:51.519] sudden say, hey, this is fact, this
[00:08:53.040] happened. You know, a lot of people
[00:08:54.640] picked up some stories and William
[00:08:57.839] Cooper was saying, these were planted.
[00:08:59.360] This is disinformation. And when we look
[00:09:00.880] at the history of a lot of uh what took
[00:09:03.440] place in the 1950s and MJ12 and these
[00:09:05.600] three-letter organizations and the fact
[00:09:07.279] that the Roswell crash happened, they
[00:09:09.200] knew that people were getting abducted,
[00:09:10.720] they knew that you we were going to be
[00:09:12.560] talking about it. They're not really
[00:09:14.480] able to cover this up, but what they
[00:09:16.240] wanted to do was control it and uh
[00:09:17.920] manage it so that when disclosure
[00:09:20.240] happens, we're pointing the finger over
[00:09:21.920] here or over there. And I really feel
[00:09:24.080] for people that y'all share these
[00:09:25.760] stories and believe them um because we
[00:09:28.959] just want to get to the truth and it
[00:09:30.399] seems like wow okay that explains it
[00:09:32.320] that might explain something but in
[00:09:34.399] actual fact we've been dealing with ETSs
[00:09:36.560] and abductions for thousands of years uh
[00:09:40.320] to varying degrees and in 1929 was when
[00:09:42.560] the original Griata treaty supposedly
[00:09:44.240] happened. So basically um Val Thor
[00:09:47.200] supposedly, this is from Dan Cooper and
[00:09:49.200] I gave a little bit of bio about him,
[00:09:51.680] not related to William Cooper who wrote
[00:09:53.360] Beyond a Pale Horse. Uh he talks about
[00:09:57.120] um when we reach Warp One and uh in 1929
[00:10:01.519] uh we bought bases on the moon and Mars,
[00:10:03.440] there were already deals being made and
[00:10:05.600] humans being taken in exchange. uh in
[00:10:08.320] the 1930s and 40s uh Winston Churchill,
[00:10:11.200] Crowley, Alistister Crowley and Hitler
[00:10:13.680] um supposedly uh formed agreements and
[00:10:18.959] um you know there's a strong connection
[00:10:21.120] between the Nazis and the Draco. So the
[00:10:24.399] Second World War wasn't really one. Yes,
[00:10:26.240] Germany surrendered, but uh the Nazi uh
[00:10:30.880] Draco aspect of it, interplanetary
[00:10:32.880] corporate conglomerate because the
[00:10:35.040] basically the Nazis took over all the
[00:10:36.800] corporations um and basically
[00:10:40.640] not just paperclip but 1952 surrender
[00:10:43.600] instrument basically began to infiltrate
[00:10:46.079] all the um institutions of of power and
[00:10:50.320] influence educational um medical,
[00:10:53.680] Hollywood, you name it. So, it's kind of
[00:10:57.519] disturbing to think we didn't win the
[00:10:59.120] war. Um, and and it's not something, you
[00:11:01.519] know, we need to fear. We just need to
[00:11:02.959] understand that the war has become a war
[00:11:04.399] on consciousness and that they've been
[00:11:06.320] trying to steer the disclosure
[00:11:08.640] narratives uh to keep using that as a
[00:11:11.600] way to cause us to consent to a false
[00:11:13.760] solution.
[00:11:15.279] So, something happened perhaps in 1954.
[00:11:18.640] Um, but the anomalies that were reported
[00:11:21.920] around that time were pretty minimal. It
[00:11:23.519] had nothing to do with the craft showing
[00:11:24.959] up. It had to do with pre-existing
[00:11:27.760] um crafts that were already there. What
[00:11:31.200] has been well documented is the 1952
[00:11:33.440] flyover over over the capital,
[00:11:35.519] >> right?
[00:11:35.920] >> Um the ships hovered for like six hours.
[00:11:37.839] Six hours is a lot longer than
[00:11:40.000] Eisenhower running to a base, signing a
[00:11:41.680] treaty with grace, and coming back and
[00:11:42.880] going to church the next morning. And
[00:11:44.560] he's a very humble man. And you know, he
[00:11:47.040] was raised by Menanite farmers, or at
[00:11:48.800] least that's the descendants,
[00:11:50.000] Anabaptists, pacifists, very um uh not
[00:11:54.640] wealthy at all. Uh living close to the
[00:11:56.720] earth, Bible, scripture, very strict. Um
[00:12:00.399] not Illuminati or elitist kind of
[00:12:02.720] bloodline or family as much as people
[00:12:04.640] might think that. You know, he's not the
[00:12:06.639] kind of guy that's just going to go off
[00:12:07.920] to some base and sign something and not
[00:12:09.839] come back a little frazzled, probably
[00:12:11.279] maybe not going to church and recovering
[00:12:12.800] from whatever the heck that was.
[00:12:14.560] >> You know, he was privy to things. I
[00:12:16.079] think he really knew about um the
[00:12:18.560] Roswell uh incident and the alien um
[00:12:25.040] presence, but but I feel that he was
[00:12:28.079] advised by Valfor. This is what I've
[00:12:29.760] been told, you know, by people like Dan
[00:12:31.440] uh Dan Cooper and a lot of insiders. Um
[00:12:34.399] and when I say a lot, I'm talking about
[00:12:35.760] three or four. So, I don't want to like
[00:12:37.279] say a lot and have people think I'm
[00:12:38.560] talking about 10 or 12. So,
[00:12:39.839] >> sure. To me, three is a lot for this
[00:12:43.680] topic. but that Bthor
[00:12:46.320] um helped advise him, helped
[00:12:48.880] uh warn us and and helped us to
[00:12:51.839] understand that the first contact was in
[00:12:53.279] 1929 with the Nordics. They have a base
[00:12:55.519] called New Berlin or they helped um
[00:12:57.839] create this underground city in
[00:12:59.120] Antarctica and uh you know there's just
[00:13:01.920] a lot of history there. So Valthor
[00:13:04.240] helped Eisenhower set up countermeasures
[00:13:05.839] supposedly like the White Hats, the
[00:13:07.600] Earth Alliance, and Iikes Force and
[00:13:09.440] helped him to appeal to the Guardians to
[00:13:12.079] put an outer barrier around the planet.
[00:13:14.320] Um, so all of this is just something to
[00:13:17.200] think about. And I guess what I'm trying
[00:13:19.040] to say is there's a lot more evidence
[00:13:20.560] about what happened in 1952, what
[00:13:23.839] happened in 1947,
[00:13:25.920] and
[00:13:28.160] events that have taken place, you know,
[00:13:30.000] since.
[00:13:31.760] um have been a lot harder to unwrap
[00:13:37.040] without tracing it back to those events.
[00:13:39.360] Or else we just think something just
[00:13:40.720] began in 1954 when obviously these
[00:13:43.519] events shaped things in our US
[00:13:46.320] government and in our country before
[00:13:49.279] 1954. So Eisenhower inherited something
[00:13:51.839] he was trying to counteract and actually
[00:13:53.360] trying to stop. And they put the blame
[00:13:55.120] on him because they hate him because he
[00:13:57.360] tried to stop them also in the Second
[00:13:58.880] World War. He tried to stop them. Wow.
[00:14:01.360] No, it's it's it's incredible. I mean,
[00:14:03.279] to put in the pieces, right? Because it
[00:14:05.600] does feel like to me whenever that story
[00:14:07.279] is told or investigated that there's
[00:14:09.440] probably more to it, right? It's not
[00:14:11.760] just as pretty much what you said. Um,
[00:14:14.160] you know, it wouldn't be just as simple
[00:14:15.519] as, hey, let's have this meeting and
[00:14:17.360] then possibly sign something or just,
[00:14:20.000] you know, kind of try to understand who
[00:14:21.519] each other are and even if there was a
[00:14:24.480] meeting, whether or not something was
[00:14:25.600] signed at the meeting. Um but then also
[00:14:28.399] that understanding of okay this actually
[00:14:32.639] went a lot deeper than some type of
[00:14:35.680] possible meeting. This went into him
[00:14:37.519] having a knowledge that something was
[00:14:39.600] going on that there's this you know
[00:14:40.959] these other life forms here and that
[00:14:43.519] there was some type of nefarious
[00:14:46.160] >> uh agenda
[00:14:47.519] >> as they teamed up with with the Nazis
[00:14:49.360] and he was trying to to counteract that.
[00:14:51.040] That's something that a lot of people
[00:14:52.000] don't talk about. I know and it's very
[00:14:53.839] frustrating and you know a lot of these
[00:14:56.079] other videos go viral and it's okay you
[00:14:58.560] know if people are talking about it um
[00:15:01.120] to ponder the possibility but when they
[00:15:03.680] state it as fact uh it's it's there's no
[00:15:07.600] real evidence. You can't state something
[00:15:09.040] as fact. It's like saying I don't know
[00:15:10.399] where you were for the last couple
[00:15:11.440] hours. There are a bunch of murders um
[00:15:14.480] about three hours away. You must have
[00:15:16.399] done it because we don't know where you
[00:15:17.680] were. You know where's the evidence
[00:15:19.440] where there's got to be something. and
[00:15:20.880] they're like, "Oh, no. They they don't
[00:15:23.040] leave any evidence. They cover all this
[00:15:24.560] up, but yet they won't believe other
[00:15:26.639] stories and they'll say, "Well, where's
[00:15:28.079] your evidence?" Right? So, it's it's
[00:15:29.440] very fractured and it's very much a mess
[00:15:31.519] when I look at it because there's double
[00:15:33.519] standards here. They'll use Grock for
[00:15:35.440] something and I use it and I'll say,
[00:15:36.560] "Well, look what Grock says." They're
[00:15:37.519] like, "Well, Grock's not reliable." But
[00:15:38.880] then I see the same people posting
[00:15:40.800] things from Grock as fact. And u you
[00:15:42.959] know, people want to believe what they
[00:15:44.079] want to believe because it's so much to
[00:15:45.920] invest in something and then all of a
[00:15:47.839] sudden see a different reality. And I've
[00:15:49.680] had to do that. We all have to do that.
[00:15:52.000] And it's not about, you know, I'm not
[00:15:53.600] trying to fix anybody to anything. I
[00:15:55.839] think all of this needs to be put out on
[00:15:57.759] the table and then we work together to
[00:15:59.360] try and figure out what's going on. Not
[00:16:01.600] to point blame as much as figuring out
[00:16:04.000] how to navigate the rest of this because
[00:16:05.680] a lot of individuals um back in that era
[00:16:09.440] were being threatened. Forestsaw was
[00:16:10.959] thrown out of the window. I mean, people
[00:16:12.240] were you you couldn't disclose this sort
[00:16:14.480] of stuff. And a lot of whistleblowers
[00:16:16.160] were not going to be given the top top
[00:16:17.680] secret. we're dealing with
[00:16:19.279] compartmentalism and you you'll know on
[00:16:21.839] a need to- know basis and and they knew
[00:16:23.600] that some people were going to be
[00:16:24.560] blowing the whistle. They're not going
[00:16:25.519] to give them the biggest secrets.
[00:16:26.560] They're not going to tell them what
[00:16:28.000] they're engineering. They're not going
[00:16:29.360] to just say that to their employees or
[00:16:31.920] people that they've recruited. They keep
[00:16:33.759] that, you know, way way up there in the
[00:16:36.240] compartments. So, um you know, Dan
[00:16:38.720] Cooper never signed an NDA. He doesn't
[00:16:40.880] have immunities. um you know he's had to
[00:16:43.440] skirt death many times but this is
[00:16:45.120] something he said that Eisenhower set up
[00:16:46.880] which is called Iikes force and the
[00:16:48.800] reason he wanted to
[00:16:51.120] um you know have a voice about it and
[00:16:53.680] actually I more talked him into having a
[00:16:55.680] voice about it he's not looking for you
[00:16:57.759] know um he was told by the Guardians to
[00:17:01.360] study Eisenhower and that administration
[00:17:03.199] and everything about it and um and to
[00:17:05.199] connect it with the uh resources and the
[00:17:07.360] people that he knew to begin to connect
[00:17:09.199] these dots and then he said that he was
[00:17:11.280] saved by IKES Force. And basically I
[00:17:13.679] Force, which Eisenhower set up, are
[00:17:15.280] vigilantes. They don't work together as
[00:17:17.039] a group because it's more dangerous to
[00:17:18.880] be shut down as a group. Um the
[00:17:22.160] vigilantes work with temporal management
[00:17:24.000] to correct timelines. So if somebody
[00:17:25.839] like Dan's going to be taken out, they
[00:17:27.839] will um have somebody from IEF Force
[00:17:30.480] prevent that from happening. He said
[00:17:32.480] that I Forest is constantly trying to
[00:17:34.320] keep me alive and um and a lot of
[00:17:36.640] others. Doesn't mean they're always
[00:17:37.840] successful. We know there's a lot of
[00:17:39.039] casualties, but the whole idea of Iikes
[00:17:41.120] Force was where they're trying to keep
[00:17:43.200] the truth from coming out and they keep
[00:17:45.039] trying to silence individuals or um
[00:17:49.280] threaten their life or even smear them.
[00:17:51.679] Um this group is trying to mitigate that
[00:17:54.559] and same with the White Hats. And he
[00:17:56.799] said Dan Cooper said that Eisenhower set
[00:17:58.559] up the White Hats also. So, you know,
[00:18:01.520] he's being blamed, yet he's actually the
[00:18:04.480] person that's counteracting. And it
[00:18:06.720] doesn't make any sense with the
[00:18:07.760] chronology that that particular time in
[00:18:09.840] our history would be the starting point
[00:18:12.240] of abductions. There were abductions
[00:18:13.919] reported in 1947. Um, you know, and my
[00:18:17.360] lab started to become a thing after
[00:18:18.960] 1952, 1953. military abductions, reverse
[00:18:23.120] engineer uh crafts, um black helicopters
[00:18:27.840] being the ones that were abducting, but
[00:18:30.240] creating a a screen kind of memory or
[00:18:33.039] event where it looked like it was
[00:18:34.240] actually um aliens and um real, you
[00:18:38.799] know, aliens piloting UFOs. It's not to
[00:18:41.679] say that that doesn't happen, but the
[00:18:43.039] thing is with Deep State is they want to
[00:18:44.720] create an imitation version in order to
[00:18:46.880] overlay on top of what's already
[00:18:48.799] happening. So, it's not about throwing
[00:18:50.720] the baby out with the bathwater. It's
[00:18:52.080] about understanding how difficult it is
[00:18:54.720] to discern, okay, is that an actual
[00:18:56.960] legit event or was that um engineered?
[00:18:59.600] Is that military? Same with the weather.
[00:19:01.520] Was that a real hurricane or was that
[00:19:03.039] HARP geoengineering?
[00:19:05.360] More uh most of the time there's
[00:19:06.960] something that is organically happening
[00:19:09.440] that they want to manage and they end up
[00:19:11.679] intervening um themselves into, you
[00:19:15.520] know, the situation. But they do recruit
[00:19:17.600] a lot of talented and gifted people um
[00:19:20.320] into their myab sort of programs. And
[00:19:23.919] then even Max Spears talked about, you
[00:19:26.400] know, a lot of what people think um are
[00:19:30.160] uh experiences on other planets are
[00:19:31.919] actually virtual realities, but that
[00:19:33.679] could also be the training ground before
[00:19:35.120] they actually go off planet. So it's
[00:19:37.120] just like we've been given the biggest
[00:19:38.480] cluster of insanity to try and sort
[00:19:41.520] out and sift through as humans, but um I
[00:19:44.720] think all of it matters. We have to lay
[00:19:46.240] it all out on the table, but we have to
[00:19:48.320] watch out before we state something as
[00:19:50.559] historical fact because it really starts
[00:19:52.400] to become historical defamation on
[00:19:53.919] Eisenhower who is the last person on
[00:19:55.840] earth that would have signed us over.
[00:19:57.280] And if he did have anything to do with
[00:19:59.360] anything, it might have been for
[00:20:00.799] diplomacy. It might have been because
[00:20:02.720] another person who is an insider
[00:20:05.520] background very profound kind of uh
[00:20:09.039] credentials said that the treaty was
[00:20:11.440] originated in 1947 and it got out of
[00:20:14.080] control and Eisenhower wanted to make
[00:20:16.000] sure they didn't breach the agreement
[00:20:18.640] which kind of makes sense but from what
[00:20:20.640] Dan Cooper is saying is that greater
[00:20:22.799] actually originated in 1929. Other
[00:20:25.200] whistleblowers said that it gets renewed
[00:20:26.960] every 10 years. So, if there was another
[00:20:29.039] renewal happening in 1954,
[00:20:31.760] um it's been said that it wasn't
[00:20:33.440] Eisenhower. That's it was MJ12. Um they
[00:20:37.280] wanted to use him as a cover and that's
[00:20:38.880] when he got furious. He wanted to invade
[00:20:40.559] Area 51 and um because he they weren't
[00:20:44.799] reporting to him. After 1952, they
[00:20:47.120] signed it into law that MJ12 didn't have
[00:20:49.280] to report to the president anymore.
[00:20:50.880] Originally, MJ12 did. They became their
[00:20:54.080] own sort of uh they had their hands on
[00:20:57.120] the alien technology and they were
[00:20:58.960] operating outside of presidential
[00:21:01.280] oversight.
[00:21:02.480] >> Wow. It's No, it is it's a lot to take
[00:21:04.960] in. Um
[00:21:06.080] >> it's a lot to try and express. So I do
[00:21:08.159] my best.
[00:21:09.360] >> Yeah. No, no, I'd appreciate it because
[00:21:11.120] like I said, a lot to touch on, a lot to
[00:21:12.799] follow up on. I do want to get to Valley
[00:21:14.960] and Thor uh as well because I've always
[00:21:17.440] found that subject to be extremely
[00:21:18.960] fascinating and uh you know the history
[00:21:21.360] with President Eisenhower. I've always
[00:21:22.799] heard it in aspects of of Nixon or or
[00:21:26.159] Truman. Um how well I guess I'll just
[00:21:29.200] ask it right now. So how does uh
[00:21:31.360] President Eisenhower's history fit in
[00:21:33.280] with Vali and Thor? Because you always
[00:21:35.200] hear about how he was kind of like you
[00:21:37.360] know kept in the Pentagon. They didn't
[00:21:39.360] let him do much. He offered his help but
[00:21:41.520] they kept denying his help. So I mean
[00:21:43.760] were they able to according to your
[00:21:46.000] knowledge work closely and get things
[00:21:47.760] done together?
[00:21:48.880] >> Oh yeah definitely. I don't hear about
[00:21:51.039] valor much with Truman is Nixon
[00:21:53.200] Eisenhower because there you know Nixon
[00:21:55.280] being the vice president of Eisenhower
[00:21:57.679] um there might have been some kind of
[00:21:58.880] Truman connection but supposedly yeah
[00:22:01.440] Val's been around for a while and based
[00:22:03.520] on Dan's testimony and what he heard and
[00:22:06.000] overheard sharing things that just make
[00:22:07.520] a lot more sense. So I share it just for
[00:22:10.000] people to discern and have an open mind.
[00:22:12.080] Anyway, because the Griata treaty 1954
[00:22:15.600] scenario doesn't make any sense and the
[00:22:18.080] 1954
[00:22:19.679] first contact would have been connected
[00:22:21.919] to the Dennis appointment. That's
[00:22:23.520] usually, I think, the one that people
[00:22:24.799] mostly steer, right?
[00:22:26.240] >> Um, he says that the Nordics, that
[00:22:28.240] that's all BS. The Nordics didn't come
[00:22:30.080] in and try and have us get rid of
[00:22:32.000] nuclear weapons in exchange for helping
[00:22:34.720] us. That sounds a lot more like Balor.
[00:22:37.440] He said that the Nordics and the Draco
[00:22:39.679] signed a Muhammad Accord agreement. It's
[00:22:42.240] called the Muhammad Accord. And
[00:22:43.760] basically the Nordics would not be
[00:22:45.520] intervening at all trying to help us. Um
[00:22:47.919] doesn't mean that there aren't rogue
[00:22:49.440] elements. It doesn't mean that there
[00:22:50.640] aren't factions of the Galactic
[00:22:52.480] Federation that have breached that or um
[00:22:55.280] somehow those agreements might have been
[00:22:56.720] changed. There's a lot um to speculate
[00:23:00.559] on. I don't think we experience reality
[00:23:02.559] all in the same way anyway. We're
[00:23:04.240] multi-dimensional beings. We experience
[00:23:05.760] reality and dimensions and timelines you
[00:23:08.240] know differently but we are getting to
[00:23:09.600] the core truth you know um as a
[00:23:12.400] collective I feel so Valor if he did
[00:23:15.679] come in 1952 Dan says he warned about
[00:23:18.080] the Nordics and the grays that the
[00:23:19.760] Nordics came in 1929 he explained their
[00:23:22.640] alliance uh with the Nazis how that kind
[00:23:25.440] of shifted and um it solely more was
[00:23:30.240] about just the alliance with the Draco
[00:23:32.880] and the Nordics Um
[00:23:36.559] yeah, we're
[00:23:38.640] um communicating
[00:23:41.200] in various ways perhaps, but not in this
[00:23:43.679] first contact scenario that is described
[00:23:46.080] that is talked about warning about the
[00:23:47.600] grays also, you know, and then signing
[00:23:49.760] with the grays. So if he warned about
[00:23:51.360] the Nordics and the Grays and they were
[00:23:54.159] all about peace and had a lot of the
[00:23:57.039] same intention that we hear the Nordics
[00:23:59.919] were holding, then maybe people are
[00:24:01.840] confusing the landing of Val around that
[00:24:04.559] time with the first contact with the
[00:24:06.159] Nordics. But when Eisenhower stepped
[00:24:07.520] into office because he inherited all
[00:24:09.120] this and because there were a lot of
[00:24:10.720] restrictions based in this unconditional
[00:24:12.640] surrender instrument in 1952 that
[00:24:14.799] basically um signed us over to this sort
[00:24:18.720] of shadow government being in charge uh
[00:24:21.520] with um limited capacity except for what
[00:24:24.640] they told you to do. That's why
[00:24:26.080] presidents feel like puppets because
[00:24:27.520] they're answering to this other sort of
[00:24:30.960] infrastructure that's been growing um of
[00:24:33.679] you know deep state shadow government
[00:24:35.120] and three-letter organizations. Uh
[00:24:37.200] that's why you know after Kennedy you
[00:24:38.960] know we're seeing you know groomed
[00:24:41.679] presidents we're seeing manurion
[00:24:43.279] candidates we're seeing um people in
[00:24:46.000] prominent positions that you know aren't
[00:24:48.240] exactly operating from their own free
[00:24:50.320] will or their own better judgment. So
[00:24:52.400] Eisenhower was one of the last
[00:24:53.840] presidents, Kennedy also and a few
[00:24:56.480] others. So Balthor warned about this.
[00:24:59.279] Okay, great. So he started to advise
[00:25:01.279] Eisenhower. How do we set up counter
[00:25:03.120] measures? Because what happened in 1952
[00:25:05.919] literally meant that um we are going to
[00:25:08.960] be further enslaved. Um all the agendas
[00:25:11.200] that are playing out, new world order,
[00:25:12.880] uh all the things that um people have
[00:25:16.159] been worried about and fearing, you
[00:25:17.760] know, who is that coming from? Well,
[00:25:19.200] they think, you know, they they
[00:25:20.799] completely changed the script of the
[00:25:22.159] Second World War, and that's a tactic
[00:25:24.240] they used to put, uh, the blame on
[00:25:26.080] Eisenhower. So, supposedly, uh, Val Thor
[00:25:29.279] advised Eisenhower between 1953 and 1957
[00:25:34.080] and helped Eisenhower to set up the
[00:25:36.240] things that he set up. Um, and uh, and
[00:25:39.679] then if he did occupy the Pentagon in
[00:25:43.279] 1957, more on a surface level, it was
[00:25:46.400] shut down. um Valthor and his mission
[00:25:48.880] was shut down by the joint chiefs of
[00:25:50.240] staff and the you know um the uh the
[00:25:54.559] shadow government basically the um
[00:25:56.799] three-letter organizations they they
[00:25:58.400] didn't let Val move forward and um so
[00:26:01.840] the alliance that Valthor and Eisenhower
[00:26:04.240] and Nixon had and uh you know their
[00:26:07.520] proposal to help humanity you know was
[00:26:10.159] shut down because they feared that uh
[00:26:12.240] they would lose control. Um, so that's
[00:26:15.279] the story in Frank Strange's book, but I
[00:26:16.960] think it goes a lot deeper. Um, they set
[00:26:19.440] up countermeasures. Valthor, Victor 1,
[00:26:22.080] and 200 ships stationed all over the
[00:26:24.480] country, all over the world are still
[00:26:26.640] around. They didn't leave. It's just
[00:26:29.279] they couldn't help uh on the level of,
[00:26:32.320] hey, we're going to make an announcement
[00:26:33.679] and everybody Val Thor is going to take
[00:26:35.120] the stage and we're going to see him,
[00:26:36.640] you know, talk to the uh human race
[00:26:39.440] about what he proposes. So what had to
[00:26:42.400] go underground because of what was not
[00:26:44.400] being allowed on a surface level didn't
[00:26:45.919] mean that things weren't still
[00:26:46.880] happening. I guess is the best way to
[00:26:48.080] put it. But I question some of these
[00:26:50.480] stories too. I know Bthor and Eisenhower
[00:26:52.320] are very close. But I almost think that
[00:26:54.480] the whole and I don't want to discredit
[00:26:56.000] Frank Stranges, but something just feels
[00:26:59.039] a little bit off. Not to say that it
[00:27:00.720] didn't happen or he wasn't put on VIP
[00:27:02.720] status for three years. It makes sense
[00:27:05.039] that Eisenhower didn't shut down the
[00:27:06.799] mission and it was shut down by, you
[00:27:09.200] know, shadow government. But was the
[00:27:10.559] mission really shut down? I mean, and
[00:27:13.360] this is where I feel Val Thor played a
[00:27:15.279] hand in helping Eisenhower write his
[00:27:16.960] final speech about the
[00:27:18.559] military-industrial complex and the
[00:27:20.080] warning and being a knowledgeable and
[00:27:21.600] aware citizen because what I love about
[00:27:23.760] Eisenhower was it was not about the
[00:27:25.679] government structure. It was about us
[00:27:27.200] being the leaders that we would
[00:27:28.720] overthrow deep state. The minute we get
[00:27:30.720] the games that are being played, that's
[00:27:32.720] where our liberation and sovereignty
[00:27:34.159] comes from. Just like if you're with a
[00:27:35.600] narcissist, a deceiver, and a control
[00:27:37.440] freak who's playing with your mind,
[00:27:39.600] playing with your self-worth, causing
[00:27:41.360] you to believe something, um scaring
[00:27:44.159] you, and then coming up with a false
[00:27:45.520] solution, yeah, it's very easy to get
[00:27:47.520] entangled, right? But the minute you
[00:27:49.039] have a clue, the minute you see things
[00:27:51.760] for what they truly are, and you cut the
[00:27:53.840] cords, you're on a completely different
[00:27:55.440] trajectory and that begins to fall away.
[00:27:57.520] It can't feed on you anymore. It can't
[00:27:59.440] use your creative energy to battery up
[00:28:01.279] these artificial timelines because all
[00:28:03.200] of it is um falsities to keep a vampiric
[00:28:06.960] system alive. That requires our energy
[00:28:08.720] for it to even exist. So, we have to
[00:28:10.960] remember we're the powers that be.
[00:28:12.240] They're the powers that stole. And all
[00:28:13.919] they can do is take our creative energy
[00:28:15.919] and manipulate it into battering up
[00:28:19.360] their desired timeline instead of ours.
[00:28:21.520] And the minute we wake up to that and we
[00:28:23.039] call that back, we we absolutely crush
[00:28:25.120] it. So, we might not get to the bottom
[00:28:26.960] of the thing, uh, bottom of things, and
[00:28:29.840] that's okay. I'm just doing the best
[00:28:31.679] with the enormity of information that I
[00:28:33.840] get that I'm trying to sift through and
[00:28:35.760] organized until it really begins to make
[00:28:38.480] sense, and that's what my presentations
[00:28:39.840] do. It's really, really hard to just
[00:28:41.520] come out and share it in the way that
[00:28:43.679] I'm doing in an interview.
[00:28:44.880] >> Yeah. Right. 100%. Which is what I try
[00:28:46.399] to do here on the show. So um actually
[00:28:49.440] on so on that note when we talk about
[00:28:51.919] the Guardians I just want to ask that
[00:28:54.240] too Laura because you know people hear a
[00:28:56.320] lot of the names the Guardians the Draco
[00:28:58.240] all these different things um and how
[00:29:00.720] they relate to each other good versus
[00:29:02.320] evil. How would you explain both for
[00:29:05.600] someone who isn't completely familiar
[00:29:07.360] with the idea of this you know uh
[00:29:09.760] Galactic Alliance Draco and the
[00:29:12.320] Guardians? How would you explain the
[00:29:14.080] relationship between those and how it
[00:29:16.080] plays into society?
[00:29:18.080] >> Yeah. And I apologize everyone if I'm
[00:29:19.760] not explaining things very well. It's
[00:29:21.120] it's not the easiest topic.
[00:29:22.720] >> No.
[00:29:23.520] >> Yeah. Um well, the Draco are pretty
[00:29:27.039] ancient race. And when you think about
[00:29:29.830] [clears throat] going back to uh just
[00:29:31.679] our ancient galactic history, I mean,
[00:29:34.480] the Draco, reptilians, um yeah, they
[00:29:38.720] they've invaded a lot of um systems. We
[00:29:42.320] had the Lyron wars, the Orion wars and
[00:29:44.960] exploded planets like Tiiamad and then
[00:29:46.880] we dropped down into this lower harmonic
[00:29:48.640] universe and then Maldc explosion and
[00:29:51.919] see these in the asteroid belts. Um so
[00:29:54.640] the nervous system of the planet holds a
[00:29:56.080] lot of trauma from previous cycles and
[00:29:58.480] the Draco uh are in charge of or rule um
[00:30:02.240] quite a number of planets and galaxies.
[00:30:05.039] I'm not good with these numbers and I'm
[00:30:06.880] not good with like the nitty-gritty
[00:30:08.480] details because I didn't serve on the
[00:30:10.159] SSPs. I wasn't given that kind of
[00:30:11.919] information. I go by, you know, uh just
[00:30:15.520] a lot of, you know, research and just
[00:30:18.240] memories just, you know, we all our old
[00:30:21.520] souls, ancient souls that have
[00:30:22.960] experienced a lot and Lisa Renee, um
[00:30:25.440] energetic synthesis.com, ascension
[00:30:27.279] glossery is a really really great
[00:30:28.480] source. So, we got like this negative
[00:30:30.240] alien agenda, right? And it's connected
[00:30:31.919] to the um Anunnaki and the black sons
[00:30:35.440] are like the name, you know, the ones
[00:30:37.279] that are connected to the Nazis. um are
[00:30:41.200] uh
[00:30:43.679] called the black sons. Then you got the
[00:30:44.960] sons of Bil and um the sons of Bil are
[00:30:48.159] connected to the Anunnaki as well. Um,
[00:30:51.039] so I I do think that the Draco uh the
[00:30:54.320] Black Suns
[00:30:56.799] um you know
[00:31:00.080] they're they're really responsible for
[00:31:02.559] um really taking out the uh Aen and the
[00:31:07.760] Cathars and really working hard at
[00:31:11.440] separating us from the Christ Sophia.
[00:31:13.919] Right? So these beings manipulated the
[00:31:16.000] planetary grid network. They put
[00:31:17.279] reversal grid technology in place in
[00:31:19.760] order to um
[00:31:22.559] make it very very difficult for humans
[00:31:24.320] to embody their full capacity on a DNA
[00:31:28.159] level. So you got these two control
[00:31:30.559] agendas, the Draco reptilian uh black
[00:31:33.600] sun agenda that aligned with the Nazis
[00:31:35.840] and the Sons of Bil which are also
[00:31:38.880] another control group and they kind of
[00:31:41.440] intersect, right? They're not waring
[00:31:43.440] with each other. I think for a time that
[00:31:44.960] they were and now they're a lot more um
[00:31:49.279] just aligned. It's it's hard to say. I
[00:31:52.320] don't know how these things might change
[00:31:53.840] and alter. Um but the dragon moth Draco
[00:31:57.120] Anunnaki so you know there's factions
[00:32:00.159] that are Draco aligned. I think it's a
[00:32:02.480] very very mixed bag when it comes to the
[00:32:03.760] Anunnaki but you know this has been
[00:32:05.760] going on for a while. Then you got this
[00:32:07.600] like reptilian hierarchy and um you know
[00:32:10.960] they're supposedly originating from the
[00:32:12.720] alpha draonus
[00:32:14.720] um and you know their hierarchal
[00:32:17.360] structure would be you know the ones
[00:32:19.840] that are at the top are are are
[00:32:21.760] overseeing the earthbased subterranean
[00:32:24.000] reptilians. Um and that's why people
[00:32:27.279] that have served in the SSP sometimes
[00:32:28.799] are like I met the white Draco you know
[00:32:30.480] like the the big guns right up there.
[00:32:33.440] Uh, and um, yeah, so there's been a lot
[00:32:36.000] of, you know, galactic wars. Um, the
[00:32:38.240] Orion group
[00:32:40.240] uh, and the Orion wars. Um, yeah, that's
[00:32:44.000] that's where a lot of destruction
[00:32:46.000] happened and things got really really
[00:32:47.519] polarized. So everything has kind of
[00:32:48.799] stepped down into this physical density.
[00:32:51.360] The trauma that was already very much
[00:32:54.159] alive in the nervous system of the
[00:32:55.600] planet after we fell from higher
[00:32:57.360] dimensional Earth into this one. you
[00:32:59.840] know, we experienced the seven root
[00:33:01.519] races, the five cloister races coming
[00:33:03.200] in. The whole idea was that we were
[00:33:04.880] going to rebuild our DNA, our 12 strand
[00:33:07.360] over the course of time and that, you
[00:33:09.440] know, this was seated as an ascension
[00:33:10.880] planet for that purpose so that we could
[00:33:12.880] recover from these galactic wars,
[00:33:15.039] planetary explosions and walk our way
[00:33:17.200] back home to source. You know, being in
[00:33:19.360] this free will universe though, we have
[00:33:20.720] the choice. So when these deceptive um
[00:33:24.480] controller agendas come into the
[00:33:26.960] picture, we as humans that have the
[00:33:28.960] vulnerability of amnesia and uh
[00:33:31.919] unconscious trauma from events that we
[00:33:34.080] don't remember and we're not taught
[00:33:35.360] about. Uh they like to leverage that. So
[00:33:37.679] they've created a whole system that is
[00:33:39.440] rigged to keep us from awakening so that
[00:33:41.279] they can stay in charge. So you know
[00:33:43.360] from the minute we're born, you know, we
[00:33:44.960] don't remember our past lives or the
[00:33:46.320] galactic elements of our nature. Um, and
[00:33:50.320] it's very easy for us to get completely
[00:33:52.399] entangled in the system. And a lot of us
[00:33:55.360] awakening are trying to pull ourselves
[00:33:56.880] out um to whatever capacity. Some have
[00:33:59.519] been a lot more free of it for a while.
[00:34:02.080] Doesn't matter. There's no contest here.
[00:34:03.919] But um anyway, lots of alien machinery.
[00:34:07.440] AI is a part of it. Um so supposedly in
[00:34:11.119] 1929 they let the deep state kind of be
[00:34:13.760] in charge and take over, right? And then
[00:34:15.200] you got your blood lines and the fact
[00:34:17.280] that they have reptilian DNA as well. Uh
[00:34:20.399] so it's a lot less the ETS it's a lot
[00:34:24.800] more the humans that have the reversed
[00:34:27.440] uh engineered technology and the
[00:34:29.280] technology that they obtained. But in a
[00:34:32.480] lot of these places like Montalk and a
[00:34:35.359] lot of these uh underground bases and
[00:34:37.679] projects and programs and black ops kind
[00:34:39.679] of there you people do see the ETSs,
[00:34:42.480] they do see Draco, they do see
[00:34:43.919] Insectoid, they they they they come
[00:34:46.000] across, you know, aliens uh negative
[00:34:49.040] alien agendas. Um but it's not like so
[00:34:52.480] prevalent. It seems like they're working
[00:34:53.919] alongside to assist in, you know, this,
[00:34:58.160] you know, capture, but it's a lot more
[00:35:00.240] um
[00:35:01.920] the human agenda about controlling us
[00:35:04.960] with the allies being the Draco. They
[00:35:06.960] they're they're in control of so many
[00:35:08.480] things that, you know, they're not so
[00:35:09.839] bent on this earth, but they they're
[00:35:11.839] kind of helping other people who are
[00:35:13.200] bent on control succeed. And that's kind
[00:35:15.760] of the way I'm making sense out of it. I
[00:35:18.640] don't know. Um
[00:35:20.960] >> no I mean it's
[00:35:22.000] >> the oldest reptilian race in the
[00:35:23.520] universe. So they are easily able to you
[00:35:27.119] know maintain control but this earth is
[00:35:29.040] very different. You know the sophianic
[00:35:31.040] aspect of it the original grids and the
[00:35:35.520] divine mother and the mother earth
[00:35:37.280] aspect. I mean that's a whole other
[00:35:38.720] thing. So anyway go ahead.
[00:35:40.480] >> Yeah. No I was just going to say I mean
[00:35:41.920] it's all incredible to consider and I
[00:35:43.680] think it's a subject that a lot of
[00:35:44.960] people don't mention when it comes to
[00:35:47.680] you know how this all might connect. So
[00:35:49.599] I guess someone listening to this and
[00:35:51.680] hearing, you know, kind of considering
[00:35:53.520] this this, you know, hidden past maybe
[00:35:56.640] for the first time, they're not too
[00:35:58.079] familiar with it like 100%. And they
[00:36:00.320] might think to themselves, well, my
[00:36:01.760] gosh, how does she know all this,
[00:36:03.680] >> right? They might. So how I guess that
[00:36:05.760] would be the question that I want to ask
[00:36:07.040] is that someone might be thinking right
[00:36:08.320] now is how does she know all this? So
[00:36:10.560] where does this come from?
[00:36:11.839] >> Well, knowledge is power, you know, not
[00:36:14.480] power, it sets you free. Truth sets you
[00:36:16.880] free, right? So um so yes I mean the
[00:36:21.040] these control groups are connected to
[00:36:23.680] satanic networks and they do cooperate
[00:36:26.400] with the luciferian belie because they
[00:36:28.560] want to enjoy the spoils of war together
[00:36:30.000] but at a time they were sort of
[00:36:31.440] competing basically they want to uh
[00:36:34.800] control the stargates on the planet keep
[00:36:36.640] things in reversal so that we as humans
[00:36:39.200] digress we don't advance. So when you
[00:36:42.079] see the symbology of the pentagram
[00:36:45.200] in Satanism, it's the it's the fifth
[00:36:47.599] element going into the ground with the
[00:36:49.440] with the points of the star up here. It
[00:36:51.760] looks like a devil, right? But the Venus
[00:36:54.160] transits are creating corrections. The
[00:36:55.520] sophonionic corrections, the orbit of
[00:36:57.200] Venus is drawing a perfect pentagram to
[00:36:58.880] flip it back up again. So when they put
[00:37:00.720] the reversal grid technology in place,
[00:37:02.480] they were targeting the ether element uh
[00:37:05.040] which is connected to the um dodcahedron
[00:37:08.240] platonic solid. And in targeting that
[00:37:10.400] element, it made it very difficult for
[00:37:12.560] us to heal, to purify, to overcome
[00:37:15.119] toxicity, to overcome disease, um to
[00:37:18.960] lengthen our lives because it affected
[00:37:20.560] our telomeres. You know, the ether
[00:37:22.400] element is connected to the mother. It's
[00:37:23.760] connected to mitochondrial DNA. The
[00:37:25.599] other elementals are connected to our
[00:37:27.599] nucleic acids as well, our DNA. So if
[00:37:30.720] you look at the points of the pentagram,
[00:37:32.079] earth, air, fire, water, ether, and you
[00:37:33.839] look at the zodiac, which is ruled by
[00:37:35.440] elements, and you look at our DNA, the
[00:37:37.760] nucleic acids of our DNA, when you look
[00:37:39.599] at nature and the elements and the way
[00:37:41.200] the planetary grid network is, it's all
[00:37:43.440] completely connected. So if you put
[00:37:45.200] reversal grid technology in, you're
[00:37:46.640] going to get a dumb down human that's
[00:37:48.000] born into a system that uh even the
[00:37:51.920] earth beneath its feet is operating in
[00:37:54.000] reversal because of these dark
[00:37:55.520] technologies. So, a lot of grid workers
[00:37:58.000] and guardian groups and the guardians
[00:38:00.160] when we're talking about the guardians
[00:38:01.359] have come in to do the grid work, which
[00:38:03.599] means um correcting the reversal and the
[00:38:06.560] distortion on top of the fact that the
[00:38:08.079] Venus transits um are a part of that
[00:38:10.320] correction. So, how do I know? Because
[00:38:12.800] I've been targeted. I'm like trying to
[00:38:15.440] figure out what the heck, how did I end
[00:38:16.720] up in this family? What is my
[00:38:17.839] relationship with Eisenhower? What does
[00:38:19.200] this all mean? and being like, "Okay,
[00:38:21.760] I'm open to being shown." And uh all the
[00:38:25.520] synchronicities, all the people that
[00:38:27.440] I've met, my relationship with Lisa
[00:38:28.880] Renee, who um is the uh person behind
[00:38:32.240] energetics.com
[00:38:34.320] and the Ascension Glossery, and just
[00:38:36.400] deep diving. I mean, even as a kid, I
[00:38:38.240] was getting massive downloads. I was so
[00:38:39.839] overwhelmed. I was very, very
[00:38:41.440] ungrounded. I'm like like ADD,
[00:38:44.960] like on steroids, right? when I was in
[00:38:47.839] school, you can still tell that I have
[00:38:49.839] yeah, I'm not fully where I'd like to be
[00:38:52.480] in a functional communicative way, but
[00:38:55.359] uh I I just was constantly processing,
[00:38:57.520] constantly processing. And so, a lot of
[00:38:59.839] the information I ran into later helped
[00:39:02.320] to connect dots with the things that
[00:39:03.680] were coming through when I was a child
[00:39:05.200] because, you know, I was definitely
[00:39:06.560] being prepared for what we're in now.
[00:39:09.760] Um, but I was pre-targeted. Um, I was
[00:39:12.480] told that I was uh a guide to
[00:39:14.880] Eisenhower's administration from the
[00:39:16.320] Galactic Realms that um the Guardians
[00:39:19.520] and it's written in a book too that was
[00:39:21.119] given to me. The Guardians brought me in
[00:39:23.839] to incarnate into this family in order
[00:39:26.160] to help
[00:39:28.240] protect the timeline from being
[00:39:30.400] completely overtaken by uh you know
[00:39:33.599] these dark agendas. Um and and you're
[00:39:36.480] doing it, hundreds of us are doing it.
[00:39:38.960] There's a whole migration of us coming
[00:39:40.480] in at different points in different
[00:39:42.400] times, right? To get to the truth.
[00:39:45.520] Doesn't mean we always have it, but we
[00:39:47.280] have the the passion. We we we're we're
[00:39:50.400] wired to get to the bottom of things and
[00:39:52.240] work together in unity consciousness,
[00:39:53.839] right? You can tell somebody like you
[00:39:56.240] has that in your heart. Um and uh and
[00:39:59.599] other people that are listening and
[00:40:00.960] other people that are out there. And you
[00:40:02.400] can tell when somebody doesn't and
[00:40:03.839] they're just definitely creating more
[00:40:06.079] problems than solution. So anyway, uh so
[00:40:11.440] um that information was intercepted when
[00:40:13.680] Eisenhower was briefed that a descendant
[00:40:15.280] would come in and that's why I was
[00:40:16.720] pre-targeted before I was born and I had
[00:40:19.359] some kind of attention on me most of my
[00:40:21.760] life that I couldn't explain. I couldn't
[00:40:23.200] talk to anybody about it. But I also
[00:40:25.200] understood what they were trying to
[00:40:27.440] prevent. They wanted to steer me off
[00:40:29.040] course. They wanted to just mess with my
[00:40:31.440] life. And this group is called the
[00:40:33.359] Aviary. Um, and some of the disclosure
[00:40:36.000] people that talk about disclosure
[00:40:37.920] related topics that are public are
[00:40:39.359] connected to this group and they're the
[00:40:40.960] disinformation um, folks. Not all of
[00:40:43.520] them, and I don't want to smear anybody,
[00:40:44.800] and I've already mentioned their names
[00:40:46.079] publicly, but uh, you know, they're
[00:40:48.800] responsible for a lot of what William
[00:40:50.240] Cooper uh, was first exposing in his
[00:40:52.720] book and then changed his tune. Um, some
[00:40:56.240] of them have died out and some are new
[00:40:58.160] characters in the game, but anyway, uh,
[00:41:01.119] I knew that when I was a child. I'm
[00:41:03.040] like, "Something's going on." You know,
[00:41:04.800] I was having extraordinary experiences,
[00:41:06.720] but I felt this targeting on me. Then I
[00:41:09.280] went to a clairvoyant institute and they
[00:41:10.800] helped explain it all. And there they
[00:41:13.200] they explained everything that I knew
[00:41:14.720] was happening. And I was like, whoa. I'm
[00:41:16.480] like, I'm going to sign up for some
[00:41:17.520] courses. I'm like, they actually there's
[00:41:19.200] some legit psychics here because who
[00:41:20.800] would know? I walked I I was living in
[00:41:23.599] California single parenting my twins and
[00:41:26.640] um there was this psychic fair going on
[00:41:28.240] and they say, "Hey, come on in and get a
[00:41:29.760] reading." So, I was like, "Okay, why
[00:41:30.960] not?" And uh the minute I walked in the
[00:41:33.599] door, the person that was in charge of
[00:41:36.720] the uh little fair there um said,
[00:41:39.920] "Eisenhower just walked in the door
[00:41:43.119] and um and everybody was just sort of
[00:41:45.040] like looking around. Had no idea like
[00:41:46.720] what was going on." And and I went up to
[00:41:48.720] her um after a couple hours because it
[00:41:50.720] was um many hours. I had a few readings
[00:41:54.079] too and people, you know, some of the
[00:41:55.440] readings that I got were the weaponry
[00:41:56.880] that was on me, the attention that was
[00:41:58.160] on me. And anyway, I went up to the lady
[00:41:59.920] at the end of it and I said, "Oh, I'm
[00:42:01.440] related to Eisenhower." She's like,
[00:42:02.400] "Yeah, he walked right through the door
[00:42:04.240] with you. He's your guide." I was like,
[00:42:06.000] "Wow." And then I came to understand
[00:42:07.839] that I was his guide, you know, in that
[00:42:10.319] in his era. So, I came in with a really
[00:42:13.920] really strong curiosity. You know, we
[00:42:16.240] all have amnesia, right? Um, we might
[00:42:18.720] have more recollection when we're, you
[00:42:20.560] know, very very young or that
[00:42:22.079] recollection might come in later
[00:42:23.839] depending. Um, or it might be a mix of
[00:42:26.560] of both. But uh you know there's nothing
[00:42:29.280] um special about me or my abilities.
[00:42:31.280] It's just just a mission and an
[00:42:33.599] agreement because the thing is with the
[00:42:35.599] guardian um races and groups, they don't
[00:42:39.280] have anything that we don't have.
[00:42:40.480] They're helping us to remember what has
[00:42:42.880] been dormant. And uh when we look at the
[00:42:45.280] dark agendas, it's not just, you know,
[00:42:47.040] abduction. It's not just doing dark and
[00:42:49.599] evil things in experimentations or um
[00:42:53.680] working out technology in underground
[00:42:55.359] bases and creating hybridization
[00:42:57.040] programs and doing hybridization. It's
[00:42:59.520] the manipulation of the human mind
[00:43:01.839] through social engineering, through
[00:43:03.359] rewriting history, through all these
[00:43:04.880] different tactics to lead us down a
[00:43:07.760] course that um
[00:43:10.960] is not a trajectory we need to go down.
[00:43:13.200] So the guardians are helping us to
[00:43:14.720] remember who we are, our creative power,
[00:43:16.800] our ability to, you know, overcome all
[00:43:19.119] of this. So I think it's a mixed bag of
[00:43:22.000] humans being abduct abducted, military
[00:43:24.319] abductions, um things that are trying to
[00:43:26.560] cover up the truth and come up with a
[00:43:28.880] similar storyline uh to to take us into
[00:43:34.480] uh a different direction. They can twist
[00:43:37.440] it just enough to throw us off because
[00:43:40.400] yes, a lot of those things have
[00:43:42.079] happened, but was it Eisenhower? No. And
[00:43:44.240] when we look at it like it might be
[00:43:45.760] Eisenhower, we fail to see all the
[00:43:47.359] things that he actually did set up and
[00:43:48.720] all the countermeasures he put in place
[00:43:50.319] and why it makes zero sense and why the
[00:43:53.119] overwhelming amount of testimony that
[00:43:55.200] actually points to what truly happened
[00:43:57.440] and what William Cooper later validated
[00:43:59.760] is something that we should, you know,
[00:44:01.599] be paying a lot more attention to, I
[00:44:03.359] feel. And so that's part of my role is
[00:44:06.240] to help to unearth, you know, these
[00:44:07.920] truths. But, you know, they try and stop
[00:44:10.560] me and whack me and put plants in my
[00:44:13.280] path and really disrupt my nervous
[00:44:15.599] system and make it really, really hard
[00:44:17.680] um to be able to do this. I get death
[00:44:19.359] threats all the time. I get weird time
[00:44:21.200] travelers coming in and being like, you
[00:44:23.040] know, and I just have to block and
[00:44:24.160] delete. I've learned that because I'd be
[00:44:26.160] sometimes curious like, what do they
[00:44:27.520] have to say? Because I'm just I need
[00:44:28.960] more information. and and I could just
[00:44:31.119] see how they would just pull me in. And
[00:44:33.520] so it's been like non-stop since I was a
[00:44:36.079] little kid. And
[00:44:37.520] >> wow. And time travelers how because I
[00:44:40.079] know some people would hear that and
[00:44:41.280] they think you know what they see in
[00:44:43.280] movies, right? If if you're in a
[00:44:44.800] Delorean or if you're in a machine or
[00:44:46.960] you know whatever you have some type of
[00:44:48.400] instrument. How how does something like
[00:44:50.160] that work if someone is good?
[00:44:52.735] [clears throat]
[00:44:53.359] >> Yeah. And that might be where people
[00:44:54.720] start to fall off like okay now she's
[00:44:56.319] just talking crazy. Um, and again, I can
[00:44:59.920] only
[00:45:00.319] >> I'm curious. I'm very curious.
[00:45:01.839] >> I can only share what I've experienced.
[00:45:03.280] I can only share what I've communicated,
[00:45:05.440] um, I think a really good source would
[00:45:06.880] be Andrew Bashago, uh, who was a
[00:45:08.800] childhood participant in Project
[00:45:10.319] Pegasus. Um, they traveled back in time,
[00:45:14.000] uh, to the Gettysburg address to, you
[00:45:16.160] know, events in our history. Stuart
[00:45:19.040] Swerlo talked about it as well. Um,
[00:45:21.440] people that have sat in the Montalk
[00:45:22.880] chair, uh, have experienced this. um and
[00:45:26.800] projecting yourself into certain times.
[00:45:29.200] But there are technologies that can
[00:45:30.720] literally transport you into um the past
[00:45:34.079] and I believe into the future. And um so
[00:45:37.119] that's what uh I Force is all about is
[00:45:39.280] working with temporal management to
[00:45:40.560] correct some of the timeline
[00:45:41.599] manipulations that uh are are are out to
[00:45:45.280] compromise humanity. And a lot of SRRA
[00:45:47.680] survivors, satanic ritual abuse
[00:45:49.520] survivors, they use their abilities to
[00:45:52.560] create such a strong intent to to create
[00:45:55.599] events to use their creative imagination
[00:45:58.079] to create events that they wanted to
[00:45:59.920] create in order to harm us. So, it's not
[00:46:02.079] just technology, it's using the gifts
[00:46:03.920] and abilities of children um and sell,
[00:46:06.880] you know, a lot of these bloodlines sell
[00:46:08.480] their children into um all of this and
[00:46:11.359] the trafficking and even offplanet, you
[00:46:14.000] know, type operations. they just sell
[00:46:15.520] their children right into it. So, I
[00:46:17.359] wasn't in those projects. I was targeted
[00:46:19.760] outside of the family because they knew
[00:46:22.400] because of uh what I told you about with
[00:46:24.240] the guardians that, you know, I would be
[00:46:26.079] coming in and a lot of us would be
[00:46:27.520] coming in. It's not just me. Um uh
[00:46:31.520] obviously uh but but in the, you know,
[00:46:34.560] context of, you know, Eisenhower, you
[00:46:36.240] know, that that's that's the particular
[00:46:38.160] station I've been assigned like, all
[00:46:40.319] right, you got to get this area here
[00:46:41.760] because this is a this is an important
[00:46:43.119] one. And God knows why I I was like,
[00:46:45.119] "Okay, I sure."
[00:46:47.920] >> Anyway,
[00:46:48.800] >> yeah, I was gonna say, do you feel like
[00:46:50.400] just on a kind of like a supernatural
[00:46:52.400] aspect when we talk about guardians and
[00:46:55.359] guides, um, do you feel like that's
[00:46:58.640] President Eisenhower speaks through you
[00:47:01.280] sometimes? Do you feel like he's trying
[00:47:03.920] to reveal truth through through you?
[00:47:06.800] >> Definitely. Definitely. He was appearing
[00:47:08.560] to me as a child and I'm like he was in
[00:47:10.720] his military, you know, gu uh uniform. I
[00:47:14.960] remember looking at books on the
[00:47:16.079] bookshelf and being like, "Wait a
[00:47:17.359] second."
[00:47:18.079] >> Because [clears throat] my it's not like
[00:47:18.960] my mom sat me down. Oh, by the way,
[00:47:20.480] you're related to um you know, a former
[00:47:22.640] general of the Second World War and
[00:47:24.480] president that served for eight years.
[00:47:26.560] Uh and or anything really. I mean, I I
[00:47:29.280] just went to family gatherings and I'm
[00:47:31.119] kind of like hearing things and you you
[00:47:33.839] grow into it eventually because you
[00:47:35.200] become a part of the conversation. But
[00:47:37.280] uh yeah, I was looking on bookshelves
[00:47:39.040] and I was like that's the one that's
[00:47:40.480] appearing to me and and then I you know
[00:47:42.079] and as a kid I was processing all this
[00:47:43.680] like what is going on and like realizing
[00:47:46.240] oh my god he's famous and what did he I
[00:47:48.079] hope blah you know uh to to understand
[00:47:51.280] this man more why I was born here and
[00:47:53.280] what this communication is about and it
[00:47:55.440] wasn't like I could write it down it
[00:47:56.640] wasn't like I was channeling but it was
[00:47:58.400] it was it was like I was being prepared
[00:48:01.839] uh and and I was shown through a
[00:48:03.520] viewfinder timelines you
[00:48:06.400] timeline that we don't want. Timeline
[00:48:08.079] that is our divine birthright. One that,
[00:48:10.240] you know, comes directly from us, our
[00:48:12.240] trust in ourselves, our remembrance of
[00:48:13.760] who we truly are and what we're capable
[00:48:15.200] of and how this other timeline is all
[00:48:17.200] based in manipulation and harvesting and
[00:48:19.520] siphoning our creative energy. Um, I I
[00:48:22.079] was getting a clue of that. So when I
[00:48:23.520] was navigating life at a young age, I
[00:48:25.359] would always kind of see the difference
[00:48:26.880] between, you know, people that were very
[00:48:29.280] much themselves, being true to
[00:48:30.640] themselves versus people that were
[00:48:31.920] really getting wrapped up in what what
[00:48:33.680] what they wanted to engineer you to
[00:48:35.520] become, the labels we've been thrown.
[00:48:37.040] Also, the diagnosises from the medical
[00:48:38.880] industry that really keep us from
[00:48:40.640] understanding, you know, who we are uh
[00:48:43.520] underneath it all. Um, obviously, you
[00:48:46.559] know, labels aren't bad. uh it can align
[00:48:48.960] with things that matter to us, but it
[00:48:50.800] doesn't take it should never take over
[00:48:52.960] where you become the label. Uh because
[00:48:55.280] if something were to change, you know,
[00:48:56.960] are you going to have a voice and and
[00:48:58.319] say, "Hey, I don't agree with this." Um
[00:49:00.480] that's part of the social engineering.
[00:49:02.319] And then same thing with disease. Uh you
[00:49:04.640] know, if you're depressed or angry and
[00:49:06.160] you're not getting to the root of it and
[00:49:07.440] you're just medicating it to make the
[00:49:09.599] difficult sensation or pain go away,
[00:49:11.760] you're not going to understand what it's
[00:49:12.960] really trying to tell you. So I remember
[00:49:14.400] advocating for that at a young age. I
[00:49:16.079] was always crying about the state of the
[00:49:17.520] world. My mom was like, "Oh, you should
[00:49:19.040] go on some medication." And I'm like,
[00:49:20.160] "No, I need to understand it." You know,
[00:49:23.200] and uh and and so I've always just been,
[00:49:25.520] you know, digging really deep. Um and uh
[00:49:28.720] you asked about Eisenhower, though. Uh
[00:49:30.400] what was your question again?
[00:49:32.640] >> I think you answered it just in the
[00:49:34.079] sense of, you know, do you feel like
[00:49:35.359] he's guiding you to tell different
[00:49:36.880] truths?
[00:49:37.280] >> Absolutely. Yeah. So when it So when I
[00:49:39.119] was first um understanding the Gria
[00:49:41.119] treaty, I'm gonna have to move so I can
[00:49:42.400] plug in my computer. um when I was first
[00:49:44.559] answering about the Griata treat when I
[00:49:46.480] was first understanding and hearing
[00:49:48.240] about it um you know I was totally
[00:49:50.559] open-minded to it uh and u and I thought
[00:49:54.160] it was a huge breakthrough like oh yeah
[00:49:55.920] disclosure yeah we need this information
[00:49:58.000] and and um and I shared about it when I
[00:50:00.160] first came public that yeah there's a
[00:50:02.160] strong possibility I was exposing the
[00:50:04.079] Mars recruitment though and my targeting
[00:50:05.760] and and what my experiences were um but
[00:50:09.040] then that kept coming back um because I
[00:50:12.160] was realizing too you this is really
[00:50:14.079] traveling and people are really we we
[00:50:16.400] really I really need to understand this
[00:50:18.160] then it became more of a priority and I
[00:50:20.640] was meeting you know the right people
[00:50:22.880] they were finding me or the
[00:50:24.160] synchronicities pulled us together
[00:50:26.400] somehow and um and I could feel him and
[00:50:30.480] his presence helping me to see you know
[00:50:33.040] wait that's just just keep digging you
[00:50:35.359] know keep being curious um Lisa Renee uh
[00:50:39.920] yeah and uh and others you know, just
[00:50:43.359] really helped me as well get to the
[00:50:45.440] bottom of things. But I could feel um
[00:50:47.839] when I would communicate something that
[00:50:49.760] might have been off, I could feel his
[00:50:52.000] energy kind of swoop in and help me and
[00:50:54.079] help, you know, kind of guide me like
[00:50:55.680] like you're not done yet, you know, keep
[00:50:57.599] like over here, over here. And I
[00:50:59.760] remember when I met Dan Cooper, I had
[00:51:01.359] this rush and I don't know if it came
[00:51:02.559] from Ike, this is the man you want to
[00:51:04.079] listen to, you know, it was like, oh,
[00:51:05.599] okay. Because I listen I I hear things
[00:51:07.119] from a lot of people and and I'm here
[00:51:09.040] pretty neutral. I'm not that biased. I'm
[00:51:10.800] not here to protect a family name. I'm
[00:51:12.079] way too rebellious to care about that.
[00:51:14.160] Um, you know, I'm just here for truth.
[00:51:16.160] But yeah, I mean, I would feel him. I
[00:51:17.839] would dream about him and I would Yeah.
[00:51:20.640] And it would get really emotional for
[00:51:22.319] me. Um, and uh, yeah, so we work really
[00:51:26.160] closely. I know it. Um, and he Yeah.
[00:51:29.520] just helps me to communicate at times
[00:51:32.240] and at times I'm sure he's like like I
[00:51:36.160] drive him nuts. [laughter]
[00:51:38.720] you know, I've fallen down my own, you
[00:51:40.559] know, downward spirals and I've had my
[00:51:42.960] own issues and sometimes the enormity of
[00:51:45.680] the pressure and just the
[00:51:47.040] responsibility, you know, no other
[00:51:48.720] family members tackling this particular
[00:51:50.800] aspect of it all can be too much. And
[00:51:53.680] when I'm bombarded all the time with
[00:51:56.079] attack and these stories and um and uh
[00:52:00.880] that he ger starve PS because one guy
[00:52:03.920] wrote a book about it and none of the
[00:52:05.280] evidence holds truth to this. Even the
[00:52:07.920] German historians and the government
[00:52:10.160] themselves said this book is completely
[00:52:12.240] inaccurate. They had summits. They had
[00:52:15.359] you know uh just it's just and
[00:52:17.839] Eisenhower inspired the Marshall Plan to
[00:52:19.440] rebuild Germany and he changed the
[00:52:20.960] policies that were really harsh after a
[00:52:22.880] million Germans uh surrendered. So, I
[00:52:26.640] guess um the task has been to correct
[00:52:30.000] what they're trying to rewrite um and
[00:52:32.480] not be biased, to have an open mind, to
[00:52:35.200] dig deep, to find the evidence, to find
[00:52:37.440] credible individuals and present what I
[00:52:40.400] find out, even if it's what I don't
[00:52:42.559] like. That was the agreement from the
[00:52:44.160] get-go. But I found out more and more
[00:52:46.000] like, wow, what a remarkable man. Um
[00:52:48.400] because I, you know, was coming from the
[00:52:50.559] place of skepticism. I was coming from a
[00:52:52.400] place of maybe that did happen and if
[00:52:54.079] so, I will speak on it. I'm not going to
[00:52:56.000] hide if that did happen. But as I dug
[00:52:58.640] deeper, I I found, you know,
[00:53:01.520] overwhelming evidence that all these uh
[00:53:04.400] smear campaigns and targets on him are
[00:53:06.480] absolutely false. So, I have felt him
[00:53:08.559] sort of help take care of me through all
[00:53:10.720] of this, help keep me strong, um help my
[00:53:14.400] heart, you know, like because I'm very
[00:53:17.359] sensitive, you know, kind of handle
[00:53:19.040] everything. And yeah, I can't wait, you
[00:53:21.359] know, when I get to the other side to
[00:53:22.800] just give him a huge hug. So, I'm just I
[00:53:24.480] just can't wait to see I'm like, "Oh my
[00:53:26.079] god, what the hell was that?" [laughter]
[00:53:28.240] >> Wow. No, it's been incredible, Laura.
[00:53:29.839] And I really appreciate you spending all
[00:53:31.359] this time to talk about it, to have this
[00:53:33.119] conversation. Um, and like you said, you
[00:53:35.119] know, it's not one that's had a lot. So,
[00:53:37.520] I'm excited that we've been able to kind
[00:53:39.040] of like go down this path and discuss
[00:53:40.800] all these possibilities and, you know,
[00:53:44.079] how this all might work, you know. Um,
[00:53:47.599] but before we go, I do want to ask you
[00:53:49.920] just how everything relates what we
[00:53:52.480] talked about here today. How it relates
[00:53:53.920] in your view to what we are seeing today
[00:53:57.440] play out in front of us on the news in
[00:54:00.640] Congress when it comes to
[00:54:01.839] whistleblowers, congressional testimony,
[00:54:04.319] uh, congressmen and women getting
[00:54:05.599] involved, uh, president, vice president
[00:54:07.599] talking about it and, you know, putting
[00:54:09.920] out files and things like that. What is
[00:54:12.319] your when you see all this going down,
[00:54:14.079] you see this outward disclosure push
[00:54:16.720] from all these different angles. What is
[00:54:18.800] your view on that as you see all these
[00:54:20.240] things happening?
[00:54:22.240] Well, I'm glad, you know, it's it's
[00:54:25.520] these concepts are being put out there
[00:54:26.960] and I just hope people um stretch their
[00:54:31.680] viewpoint um their their panoramic view
[00:54:34.319] so that they can see how many people
[00:54:36.079] have been talking about this, how many
[00:54:37.680] events happen multiple times a year of
[00:54:41.359] people sharing their disclosures, their
[00:54:43.680] experiences, uh whether they're
[00:54:45.760] abductees, whether they're contactees,
[00:54:47.599] whether they, you know, recognize that
[00:54:49.359] they were my lab military abducted
[00:54:51.520] served in SSP researchers, intuitits,
[00:54:55.839] people that are very, you know, psychic
[00:54:57.440] and tuned in. I mean, everybody needs to
[00:54:59.359] be a part of this conversation. I'm just
[00:55:01.040] glad that the topics are getting out
[00:55:02.960] there. It's not so just, you know,
[00:55:05.520] something to um laugh at or dismiss. Uh
[00:55:09.599] but I I always am worry about limited
[00:55:12.319] nar narratives, um false narratives,
[00:55:14.800] things that cover up other things that
[00:55:16.240] we need to know. And um I would just
[00:55:18.319] hope eventually uh that somebody like me
[00:55:20.880] might be taken seriously on a larger
[00:55:22.720] level. Being related to Eisenhower, you
[00:55:24.960] know, doesn't mean that I have
[00:55:26.800] credentials, but the kind of path that
[00:55:29.040] I've lived, the kind of experiences that
[00:55:30.720] I've had, the things that I've had to
[00:55:32.160] overcome, the targeting, the people I've
[00:55:34.160] met, the clients that I've worked with,
[00:55:36.000] the stories that I've heard, um
[00:55:38.079] whistleblower testimony from insiders
[00:55:40.319] that had access to things that other
[00:55:42.240] whistleblowers didn't have. And I don't
[00:55:43.520] even want to use the term whistleblower
[00:55:44.720] anymore, but um you know, we we need
[00:55:47.520] everything out on the table and there's
[00:55:49.280] some things that they don't want out on
[00:55:50.559] the table and there's some that they
[00:55:52.240] will allow. So, we have to be the ones
[00:55:54.079] that say that's great and all and that's
[00:55:56.480] hugely helpful and it's all so
[00:55:58.880] incredibly important, but what about
[00:56:00.400] this? And if what about this is shut
[00:56:02.400] down and silenced, we have to keep
[00:56:04.319] pushing for uh more exposure. not
[00:56:07.200] necessarily to say it's absolute truth,
[00:56:08.799] but to say this is worthy of being a
[00:56:10.240] part of the conversation because of this
[00:56:11.760] evidence, because of this person,
[00:56:12.960] because of this survivor, and because of
[00:56:14.799] this deathbed confession, which you're
[00:56:16.799] going to get none of that for the Griata
[00:56:18.319] treaty um in 1954 connected with
[00:56:20.799] Eisenhower. yet I have a feeling that
[00:56:23.119] they have prepared and engineered
[00:56:26.000] disclosure to look right at him um and
[00:56:29.440] and u people will just go for it because
[00:56:31.599] people don't require the deeper evidence
[00:56:33.760] if it's been passed around enough and if
[00:56:35.359] it comes from legitimate sources and
[00:56:37.680] that's why I kind of took the bait a
[00:56:39.680] little bit and it's nothing to you know
[00:56:43.440] worry about if if you did it's no
[00:56:45.280] measure of intelligence it's just we got
[00:56:47.119] to just open up the dialogue a little
[00:56:49.119] bit further
[00:56:50.799] um you know and uh so I like that you're
[00:56:53.359] talking about it and I'm glad you had me
[00:56:55.280] on because you know there's more to the
[00:56:56.880] picture than just that
[00:56:58.559] >> and so uh but I am um you know just
[00:57:01.359] keeping my eye on all of it. I continue
[00:57:03.440] to do events. I have a webinar coming up
[00:57:05.200] September 6. So if everybody's kind of
[00:57:07.200] like h it's too much what I just shared
[00:57:09.920] this will really help you walk through
[00:57:11.359] it. You can have a replay um if you
[00:57:13.920] share the link in the description
[00:57:15.440] that'll be great and then people can
[00:57:17.359] join me and it's two hours. you'll have
[00:57:20.160] uh replays and it gives you a chance to
[00:57:22.400] know where to find me so that you know
[00:57:24.480] you can ask questions and I can give you
[00:57:26.799] um more information on all these topics
[00:57:29.119] even after the webinar. I'm very
[00:57:31.280] accessible in that way or I try to be.
[00:57:33.359] Um but yeah, I I'm looking forward to
[00:57:35.040] what's to come. I think it's a huge
[00:57:36.319] breakthrough that all this is happening.
[00:57:37.599] I feel much better about this
[00:57:38.799] administration being the administration
[00:57:40.880] connected to these times. Not that I'm
[00:57:43.040] happy about everything that's going on
[00:57:44.400] in regards to it. Um but uh yeah, I'm
[00:57:47.599] just going to continue doing what I do.
[00:57:49.040] sharing what I share and um yeah and I
[00:57:52.000] know yeah why why else would I have been
[00:57:53.760] incarnated into this family I mean and
[00:57:55.599] be shown what I've been shown and and
[00:57:57.359] have been targeted there must have been
[00:57:59.040] a reason because I would get to the
[00:58:00.720] bottom of things um or they just wanted
[00:58:03.520] to use me on a planet somewhere else and
[00:58:05.680] just for whatever reason I don't think I
[00:58:07.839] have any special abilities for that
[00:58:10.079] purpose but I do have a big mouth and I
[00:58:12.559] do dig deep and I am kind of a detective
[00:58:14.799] so [laughter]
[00:58:16.319] >> well no this has been awesome Laura and
[00:58:18.000] I know Um, if people do want to follow,
[00:58:19.520] I'll definitely share that link you're
[00:58:20.720] talking about for your webinar, but if
[00:58:22.160] people want to keep up with you, how can
[00:58:23.440] they do that? Website, social media, how
[00:58:25.200] can they find you?
[00:58:26.319] >> So, cosmicgua.org is my website. Um, and
[00:58:30.799] uh, yeah, if you can, you know, just
[00:58:32.240] share that uh, webinar link, that'd be
[00:58:34.799] great. You should be able to find most
[00:58:36.400] of my social media on the homepage of
[00:58:38.160] cosmicgua.org.
[00:58:39.680] I'll give you that link. Um, but you can
[00:58:41.520] find me under Laura Eisenhower. Most of
[00:58:43.200] my social media has a blue check mark
[00:58:44.880] just because there's a lot of imposttor
[00:58:46.400] accounts. So, I'm on Instagram, I'm on
[00:58:48.400] X, I'm on Facebook, I'm on Telegram. So,
[00:58:51.520] uh yeah, I hope you guys, you know,
[00:58:53.760] follow and it's a lot, I know, uh for an
[00:58:57.119] interview covering all these kind of
[00:58:58.480] topics, but um hopefully uh yeah, you'll
[00:59:01.119] check out my Substack,
[00:59:02.000] laura.substack.com.
[00:59:04.240] I have multiple articles on all these
[00:59:06.559] topics.
[00:59:07.440] >> Great. Now, Laura, this is fascinating.
[00:59:09.839] I'm really glad we got to do this
[00:59:11.200] finally trying to uh you know, work
[00:59:13.200] things out. I know you're super busy and
[00:59:14.720] I'm glad that we finally got to work out
[00:59:16.880] a schedule and get you on here and and
[00:59:18.640] have this discussion and I'd love to
[00:59:20.000] have you back on in the future if you're
[00:59:21.200] open to it, bring you back on whenever
[00:59:23.119] you have time and uh continue this.
[00:59:25.359] >> I would love that. Thank you so much for
[00:59:27.040] having me. Thank you audience for tuning
[00:59:28.559] in and uh much love. I'll see you again
[00:59:31.440] soon.
[00:59:32.400] >> Awesome. Thanks, Laura Eisenhower here
[00:59:34.000] on UAP. Bye-bye.