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Bill Ray used the pseudonym Liam in 1997-1998 remote-viewing forums
Bill Ray used the pseudonym Liam in 1997-1998 remote-viewing forums
- Source: Daz Smith, Remote Viewing Dialogues, 2014 edition, PDF revised 2021
- Source URL: https://www.remoteviewed.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/remote-viewing-dialogues-free-mar21.pdf
- Original material: posts to the VWR and Stargate email lists in 1997-1998
- Source PDF: 450 pages, 1,972,842 bytes, SHA-256
bcf328c9735c342a1809091d6f60c8fdaa60823ac5abc43ead67c8a51279c592 - Scope: focused excerpts establishing the alias and preserving Ray's response about remote viewing and UFO claims. The complete in-copyright book remains at the source URL.
- Sourced: 2026-09-09
- Analysis: ../../sources/william-g-bill-ray and ../../queries/2026-09-04-who-was-vallees-gilbert
Contributor list and alias note
The book's contributor list identifies:
Bill Ray (Liam)
Its accompanying note says that three contributors were still working under US military or intelligence contracts when the posts were written and therefore used the listed pseudonyms. Ray's contributor biography identifies him as viewer and monitor 101, a former commander of the Fort Meade unit, and one of the military viewers trained by Ingo Swann. The biography gives Ray's commander dates as June 1987 to January 1988, but the IRVA program guide and Ray's own later interviews place his command in 1985 to June 1987.
Ray rejected remote viewing as proof of alien claims
In a discussion titled "Feedback = Validation Continued," another participant asked why people had difficulty believing in aliens and other dimensions. Ray replied under the Liam name:
This has nothing to do with our belief systems. My own is probably considered pretty radical by a lot of folks. What it is about is the credibility of RV. RV is finally starting to be accepted by a portion of the populace as having some value. Aliens and the 4th dimension is still considered to be part of the lunatic fringe. When we start talking about "greys" "time travellers" and "UFOs in comet tails" the public lumps us together with all the other kooks out there. RV as a whole loses credibility and the acceptance that a few people have worked hard to gain over the last 20 years goes down the drain.
Joe and PJ are absolutely correct. You cannot use RV to prove RV, except to other RVers. If 100 Catholics have a dream the Pope is infallible, that may prove it to other Catholics, but a Southern Baptist is still going to have his doubts. Thousands of Irishmen have seen the "little people." I saw one after 12 pints of porter one night. That may prove the "wee folk" exist to some other Irishmen, but the world in general just considers us superstitious drunks.
I am not saying aliens exist or do not exist. I am saying this is not a format for discussing them. There are other forums or sites that are set up for doing this, as PJ has mentioned. I am not hostile, I do have worry that RVing and UFOs will become linked in some people's mind. I also do not like to see us spending our time trying to prove the unproveable, as Joe has mentioned.
May the Force be with you,
Liam
The archive editor follows the post with a note identifying Liam as Bill Ray and as a former US intelligence member involved in the programs later grouped under the Star Gate name.